Here is the $184,000 Honda RC213V-S Street Bike

06/11/2015 @ 2:47 am, by Jensen Beeler118 COMMENTS

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Honda has finally debuted its “absolute MotoGP machine for the street” – the highly anticipated and hyped Honda RC213V-S. First off, the rumors are true: this is not going to be an affordable motorcycle.

The 2016 Honda RC213V-S will cost $184,000 in the USA, while Europeans will get stuck with a €188,ooo sticker price (¥21,900,000 in Japan & $244,000 in Australia). In order to buy an RC213V-S, customers must register on a special website, which will open on July 16th.

Each RC213V-S street bike will be hand-built at Honda’s Kumamoto factory, at the pace of roughly one motorcycle per day. For those inclined to doing the math, we’ll save you the trouble…fewer than 300 units will be made, with that number likely closer to 200.

The 2016 Honda RC213V-S will be available in two colors: the HRC Tricolor or plain-jane carbon fiber (our pick). Both colors have carbon fiber fairings, and come with coil spring valves (not pneumatic valves, like on the race bikes). Other changes from the racing machines include the gearbox, tires, brakes, and maximum steering angle.

As far as electronics go, there are five rider modes, a sophisticated traction control system, along with engine braking control, a quickshifter, and an inertial measurement unit (IMU).

Honda says that the RC213V-S tips the scales at a claimed 170kg dry weight (188kg wet in Europe, 190kg wet in the USA), which isn’t exactly mind-blowingly light. For example, the Ducati 1199 Superleggera weighs 155kg dry and 178kg wet.

For track riders, there is a “sport kit” that will bring the bike to even closer spec to the racing machines. It includes a new ECU, revised ram-air tubes, and of course a racing exhaust system. This kit drops the dry weight to 165kg (177kg wet), but it oddly won’t be available to USA market machines…and that’s an important fact to remember.

In the US market, the Honda RC213V-S will be tuned for 101hp at 8,000 rpm (66 lbs•ft of torque) — a figure the bike will be stuck at, since the sport kit is not available to the US market.

In Europe and Australia, the RC213V-S will make a still disappointing 157hp at the 11,000 rpm-spinning crank, but with the sports kit installed, that figure will get bumped to over 210hp at 13,000 rpm. Peak torque is set at 75 lbs•ft at 10,500 rpm, with the sports kit lifting that figure to over 87 lbs•ft.

Once purchased, the machines must be stored indoors, in a controlled environment. They also must be serviced by specially certified Honda dealerships, who will have the necessary training and tools to service the high-maitenance street bike.

As you would expect, at the core of the 2016 Honda RC213V-S is a compact 90º V4 999cc engine, which features titanium connecting rods and a sand-cast aluminum crankcase. Like on the MotoGP bike, the fuel tank is situated under the rider’s seat, which is shrouded by the bike’s carbon fiber bodywork.

Other items straight from the MotoGP bike are the swingarm, slipper clutch, magnesium Marchesini wheels (17″ inches in size), pressurized Öhlins forks, adjustable footrests and foot controls, as well as most of the Brembo brake components (steel rotors instead of carbon).

In order to buy a 2016 Honda RC213V-S, interested parties have to declare their intent on www.RC213V-S.com, with models expected to start shipping towards the end of this year.

You better get your request in quickly though, because this is going to be a truly limited production motorcycle, and we doubt Honda is going to have a hard time selling a MotoGP machine for the street.

Technical Specifications of the Honda RC213V-S for the American Market:

2016 Honda RC213V-S
Engine Type Liquid-cooled 4-stroke 4-valve DOHC V-4
Carburation PGM-DSFI electronic fuel injection with φ48mm throttle bodies
Bore x Stroke (mm) 81.0×48.5
Compression Ratio 13
Engine Displacement (cm3) 999
Max. Power Output 75kw[101HP]/8000rpm
Max. Torque 90N・m[66lbf・ft]/8000rpm
WHEELS
Brakes Front φ320 x 5.5 mm dual hydraulic disc (YUTAKA) with 4-piston calipers and m/c (Brembo)
Brakes Rear φ220 x 5 mm hydraulic disc (YUTAKA) with 2-piston caliper (Brembo) amd m/c (Nissin)
Suspension Front Telescopic with gas-charged TTX25 (Öhlins) spring preload ,compression and rebound damping adjustment, 130mm stroke
Suspension Rear Pro-Link with gas-charged TTX36 (Öhlins) spring preload, compression and rebound damping adjustment, 64mm stroke
Tyre Front 120/70 ZR17 M/C Bridgestone RS10
Tyre Rear 190/55 ZR17 M/C Bridgestone RS10
Wheels Front 7-spoke forged magnesium (Marchesini)
Wheels Rear 7-spoke forged magnesium (Marchesini)
DIMENSIONS AND WEIGHTS
Frame type Diamond
Dry Weight (kg) 172 (380 lb)
Kerb Weight (kg) 190 (418 lb)
Caster Angle 24°35′
Dimensions (L×W×H) (mm) 2110x790x1120(81x31x44 in)
Ground Clearance (mm) 120(4.7 in)
Seat Height (mm) 830(32.7 in)
Trail (mm) 105(4.1 in)
Wheelbase (mm) 1465(57.7 in)
TRANSMISSION
Clutch Dry, multiplate with coil spring
Gearbox 6-speed, constant mesh

Technical Differences Between the Honda RC213V Race Bike and RC213V-S Street Bike, for the European Market:

Model name RC213V RC213V-S RC213V-S (with kit)
Overall length (mm) 2,052 2100 2100
Overall width (mm) 645 790 770
Overall height (mm) 1,110 1120 1120
Wheelbase (mm) 1,435 1465 1465
Minimum ground clearance (mm) 115 120 120
Seat height (mm) 830 830
Vehicle weight (kg) Over 158 (after racing) 170 (dry) 160 (dry)
Maximum number of riders 1 person 1 person 1 person
Minimum turning radius (m) 3.7 6.4
Engine type Liquid-cooled 4-stroke, DOHC 4-valve V4 Liquid-cooled 4-stroke, DOHC 4-valve V4 Liquid-cooled 4-stroke, DOHC 4-valve V4
Total displacement (cm3) 999 999 999
Bore × Stroke (mm) 81.0 × 48.5 81.0 × 48.5
Compression ratio 13.0 13.0
Maximum output (kW[PS]/rpm) Over 175kW 117[159]/11000 Over 158[215]/13000
Maximum torque (N・m[kgf・m]/rpm) 102[10.4]/10500 Over 118[12.1]/10500
Fuel supply PGM-FI (Programmed fuel injection system) PGM-FI (Programmed fuel injection system)
Starter Self Self
Ignition Full transistor, battery ignition Full transistor, battery ignition
Fuel tank capacity (L) 20 16.3 16.3
Clutch Dry multi-plate, coil sring Dry multi-plate, coil spring
Transmission Constant mesh, 6-speed return Constant mesh, 6-speed return
Transmission gear ratio 1st 2.125 2.125
2nd 1.647 1.647
3rd 1.368 1.368
4th 1.217 1.217
5th 1.100 1.100
6th 1.032 1.032
Reduction gear ratio(primary/secondary) 1.933/2.471 1.933/2.353~2.933
Caster angle (degrees) 24.6 【24.6】
Trail (mm) 105 【105】
Tire Front 16.5 120/70ZR17M/C 120/70ZR17M/C
Rear 16.5 190/55ZR17M/C 190/55ZR17M/C
Brake Front Hydraulic double disc Hydraulic double disc Hydraulic double disc
Rear Hydraulic disc Hydraulic disc Hydraulic disc
Suspension Front Telescopic Telescopic
Rear Pro-Link Pro-Link
Frame Diamond Diamond Diamond

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  • paulus

    Über sexy… but…. Fark!

  • Jake F.

    Awesome. I can’t wait to read the ride reviews from Saudi Arabian princes.

  • Jake F.

    Let’s see, it weighs more than a Ducati 1299 Panigale (375lbs. vs. 367lbs), it has much less horsepower (157hp vs. 205hp.), less torque (75 lb-ft vs. 106.7 lb-ft), and it costs over NINE TIMES the price! ($20k vs. $184k) Man, Honda really knocked it out of the park with this one.

    It also doesn’t look as good as a Panigale, but aesthetics are subjective.

  • n/a

    F*ck all you haters.

    Now that’s out of the way, the bike is still awesome, big power figure or not.

    I bet part of the race kit will be different air intakes, relocated to where the headlight is, just like the real one.

  • Mike

    Wow, that’s…..disappointing…..

  • VForce

    I am more surprised as to why I am surprised that this is the final result of all the waiting.

  • Gerald Irish

    ” we doubt Honda is going to have a hard time selling a MotoGP machine for the street.”

    I am pretty hardcore Honda fan but even I think Honda will have a hard time selling these bikes with 157 hp off the showroom floor. Yeah you can put the sport kit on it, but that’s not even available in the US. And even then, 210 horsepower for $185000? And for something that is not even lighter than bikes costing a lot less? And the Desmosedici was $65000?

    It pains me to say it, but this was a mistake.

  • Gerald Irish

    Thinking more on this, one could buy an honest-to-god ex-Ducati Moto GP bike for around $200k, and you’d have the real thing that was ridden in anger in the world championship.

    Granted the engine life would be a lot shorter but someone spending $200k on something like this isn’t buying it to put a lot of miles on it anyway.

  • Ian Miles

    Ducati should do these bikes for Honda and Honda do Ducati’s quality control. I really want to love Honda again but this is 8 years too late, should have been launched last year, too expensive, not exotic enough, underpowered, too heavy, too few and launched with all the marketing and PR excellence of a village Hall talk about planting tomatoes.

    Now if they dropped a revised version of that V4 in a Fireblade like bike and got Yoshimura to do the graphics

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uXgjvegn-Bs/TOmHKoo_ybI/AAAAAAAAI1E/4PpJwC6lz34/s1600/09Yoshimura_GSXR_003.jpg

    http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20C/Suzuki%20GSX-R%20Yoshimura%20Limited%20Edition.jpg

    and 120db Termignoni Titanium exhaust they would not be able to make enough. But they won’t……

  • sburns2421

    I think Honda is just testing the waters to see how unexciting they can be and still get their fan base to buy an extremely overpriced product. If this was a lesser manufacturer (say, MV hypothetically), people would laugh at it.

  • Kevin McNutt

    Honda builds another completely irrelevant thing. ugh. Here’s hoping the CBR1000RR becomes something special again.

  • Shaswata Panja

    US Spec wont have more than 101 hp..and US Spec wont be having any sport kit..In track spec the RCV-S weighs 177kg fully wet/kerb (exactly like road spec Ducati SL) in road spec it weighs 188kg in EU and 190kg in US kerb/fully wet

    check out these links

    http://rc213v-s.com/spec/spec_us.html

    http://rc213v-s.com/spec/spec_eu.html

    http://rc213v-s.com/spec/spec_au.html

  • Carl Moritz

    I don’t get it, what does Honda hope to accomplish with this bike?? The Ducati is a 1/3 the price offers more power & torque and is lighter, oh an is way better looking!!

  • 962c

    Yaaawwwwwwwn, another one by Honduh.

  • thumper702

    Well, being I don’t live in a $20 million mansion in Beverly Hills, I can’t even wrap my brain around a price tag like this.

    This Honda is just as irrelevant to me as the Voltus.

  • Veetwo Ktm

    i’ll stick with the KTM 1290 superduke race kitted lot more
    fun for the $

  • thumper702

    Hmmm…looks like Lucy’s got some ‘splainin’ to do!!!!!

    (Good catch SP!)

  • Nicko55

    It’s cool and exotic, but simply becomes a motorcycling curiosity at $184k. I much prefer Yamaha’s method: give us an M1-derived engine, M1-derived chassis numbers and M1-derived electronics for $16.5k.

    Ducati’s Desmosidici was also equally as interesting as this for mere $75k. Not to mention the most interesting parts of the RCV aren’t included here: pneumatic valves and a seamless gearbox. Neither are practical features I realize, but then there’s absolutely nothing practical about a $184,000 motorcycle either.

    I guess there’s something charming about Honda doing things in there own way though.

  • Daniel Caruso

    Nice looking bike but the spec are disappointing for sure especially considering the price tag. Good luck getting this serviced for less than $3k. All the new liter bikes have comparable or better specs than this. Want a V4 get an Aprila APC and save yourself $150K….

  • rod borsche

    I am a a huge Honda fan but I think Honda dropped the ball on this one, way to much money and its not a very attractive bike either, Come on Honda if your not going make the bike look cool at least make it fast!!!

  • Bruce Steever

    Another decoration for the uber rich that will never be ridden… ever. Point-fooking-less.

    Suddenly, an R1M is a screaming bargain!!!

  • Ian Miles

    So anyone who has an opinion contrary to yours is a “hater”. The bike is awesome, that’s illuminating and informative.

  • Paulo

    They should just call this a fundraiser project, it would make waaaaay more sense then giving us some convoluted halo bike…….that makes zero sense. Honestly I see nothing desirable about this model.

    The funny part is they will sell all of them, to people that don’t spend time reading A&R! LOL

  • Bruce Steever

    US market bike: 101 hp

    Hahahahahahahahahahaahaha!

  • Bruce Steever

    101 hp, in US

  • This is kind of a disgrace to the RC lineage, functionally & aesthetically. The only cool thing about this bike is the gear-driven cams

  • Joe

    Wow, does the US version just run off of two of the four cylinders?
    It is a collectors bike… I’d rather spend $75,000 on a NR750, much more exotic…
    It costs too much for even the Motorcycle press to include it into comparison tests, which in the “bang for your buck” category it will get stomped..
    What are the current WSBK Homologation rules? Even if they sell enough, what team will spend that much more than its competition…

  • Joe

    The CBR600RR has more HP than this bike on a US Showroom floor..
    WTF…? I mean, really – – – WTF ??????

    Hondas MotoGP bike for the US market… 101 HP ??????
    Rather insulting to the US market, let alone the rest of the World, especially with Yamaha’s new R1 & R1M…

  • Mitchel Durnell

    The 101hp thing is clearly to appease DOT regulations on noise and pollution. This is Honda gaining indemnity by releasing themselves from anything to do with a ‘high’ horsepower version of this bike; ergo, there are ways to get your 200hp, but that’s on you. It’s purely a legal thing, and not a concern for people who would consider investing in an exotic prototype bike.

  • Joe

    The 1983 VF750F had geared cams

  • Bruce Steever

    So did nearly every VFR up to 2001. And the RC51, for the record.

  • 101-hp? You can take a previous generation GSA, fully loaded with panniers, and beat the crap of this… 101-hp for the USA? WTF???? The Japanese must think American are rich idiots…

  • Mitchel Durnell

    You don’t get it; this is a rare prototype motorcycle. It’s like buying the Apollo 11 moon lander or something; it’s the idea behind it, not the raw elements of what it’s made of. I mean, only super robots can ride these kinds of motorcycles with quickness, so it’s not about performance, and numbers don’t tell the whole tale. This is like buying an older Formula 1 car; it’s not about buying a car, it’s about buying into the heritage and mystique of top level racing. It’s hard to explain (and I’m poor, don’t mistake me for some collector or something) but when you see a rich guy with a barn full of old racing bikes you kind of get it; a modern Fireblade is faster than Mick Doohan’s 500GP, but it doesn’t matter, you know?

  • C’mon Man

    What’s the point of building the “absolute MotoGP machine for the street” with only 101HP with price tag of a house mortgage? Were those Honda engineers working in a cave, cut off from civilization? Were they aware of the Yamaha R1M and the Kawasaki H2/H2R?
    C’MON MAN!

  • joe

    and 99% of the riders out there will go faster around a track or down their favorite road on the 600….

  • Joe

    But it is at least better than the Ducati Desmosidici

  • Daniel Caruso

    You should buy one Joe so I can fly by one riding my Desmocedici @ Laguna, lol.. 157 hp with stock exhaust, WTF?!

  • Mitchel Durnell

    This is a different animal altogether. People are not cross shopping this bike with those other liter bikes. This is like buying a Space Shuttle from NASA.

  • sburns2421

    Well in their defense its performance is going to be about the same as bikes racing during a MotoGP weekend, only it is in the Moto3 class.

  • Daniel Caruso

    Space shuttle is alot faster than a passenger jet.. 101 hp… My Desmo dyno’d 205 @ the wheels…

  • XL2C

    Proper response.

  • Calypso Five

    I could NOT ever purchase this Honda….it uses the same letters as *ome *itch running for President….
    Not good Honda

  • Huff955

    101hp WTF? Are you kidding me? My 1993 stock 1.6 MX-5 makes 102hp.. I have the dyno to prove it. Any takers.. seriously $5K and its yours

  • Jake F.

    Except it isn’t. It’s not even a replica of the real thing. It’s a watered-down homage to the RC213V. Like others have said, with the right connections you can buy a gently used real MotoGP race bike for less coin.

  • Nick

    Honda has finally fallen off their high horse and made a mess of themselves, both with their MotoGP season and this out-of-touch-with-reality bike. Even the Superleggera looks like a bargain in comparison, and it has the street legal performance to back up the hype. This will be a year for Yamaha and Ducati, both in MotoGP and on the street with the R1 and 1299. Honda lets it’s CBR1000RR get even longer in the tooth while making this publicity stunt.

  • Paul McM

    One hundred eight-four THOUSAND bucks? And it’s only got 101 HP and 66 ft-lbs in the USA. WTF? I repeat WTF? That’s not much more than my 2001 VFR 800 (which is not particularly fast at all). Someone at Honda needs to be bitch-slapped, for real. And to the guy who says “oh but this is like buying a Formula 1 car”. That’s nonsense, utter nonsense. This thing has been gutted. This bike is an insult to any moto enthusiast in America. The whole point of a “race bike for the street” as Honda is bragging all over the interwebs is PERFORMANCE. This thing has less horsepower than a GSXR 750 at 15 times the price. Honda should be ashamed. This is beyond a disappointment. It is quite frankly, a travesty. And if you can buy an actual (slightly used) MotoGP bike for less, a machine with true racing heritage, what was Honda thinking? Honda is going to make a lot of people angry with this. After all the build up… THIS is what Honda delivers?! Count me disgusted.

  • n/a

    Exactly.

  • n/a

    Can you use your ‘gently used real MotoGP race bike’ on the road?

  • Alex Grossi

    Ever wondered why manufactures
    don’t make too many limited production and homologation sportbikes anymore? Most of the
    comments on this post are the reason. Also, these comments are why you will
    almost certainly never see an RC213V-S, RC30, RC45, NR and other bikes of that
    ilk at any event/ride where the owners don’t know the participants ahead of
    time.

    The
    owners could not care less that your twelve year old Gixxer is 90% of the
    performance at 1/100th the price. You clearly don’t get it and your aggression
    as a result ruins it for the rest of us.

  • imprezive

    This is like buying a fiberglass replica of the Space Shuttle from NASA. Sure it can’t go into space but it looks cool and you can still pretend you are an astronaut in it.

  • Gerald Irish

    I’ve yet to see anyone find a way to purchase an ex-GP bike from any of the Japanese factories. There are some NSR500V’s in private hands but that’s about it.

    Ducati will sell someone a Desmosedici but there is no way I know of to buy a RC211V, RC212V, or RC213V at any price.

  • Alex Grossi

    Curious why manufactures won’t make limited production and homologation sportbikes anymore? Most of the comments on this post are the reason. Also, these comments are why you will almost certainly never see an RC213V-S, RC30, RC45, NR and other bikes of that ilk at any event/ride where the owners don’t know the participants ahead of time.

    The owners could not care less that your twelve year old Gixxer is 90% of the performance at 1/100th the price. You clearly don’t get it and your aggression as a result ruins it for the rest of us.

  • Gerald Irish

    “Curious why manufactures won’t make limited production and homologation sportbikes anymore? Most of the comments on this post are the reason.”

    The NR750 is the last time Honda made a bike like this and that bike would be $100k in inflation adjusted dollars. The Desmosedici would be $71k and the RC30 and RC45 would be around $50k to $75k. This bike is FAR and away more expensive than any of those bikes were. From about 85% to 300% more expensive.

    And really, homologation specials went away for multiple reasons. Superbike rules changes, the rise of the literbike class, the loss of importance of endurance racing for the Japanese factories, and the enormous costs of Moto GP. On top of that the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers weren’t very good at selling ‘premium’ motorcycles.

    “The owners could not care less that your twelve year old Gixxer is 90% of the performance at 1/100th the price. You clearly don’t get it and your aggression as a result ruins it for the rest of us.”

    The one time I saw someone show up to a track with a Desmosedici he ran off the front straight because he was distracted fooling around with the lap timer. I know of another Desmo owner who highsided while turning into pitlane. Chances are if someone crashes some exotica at a track day it was due to rider error, not getting taken out by someone else.

    Truth be told, the cross section of people who can afford bikes like this who are seriously fast is pretty small. If you’re that good of a rider on a 1000 cc bike not much is gonna catch you at a track day so aggressive riding is usually not going to be an issue. And really unless a track day devolves into Mad Max levels of aggression it is nowhere near as aggressive club racing so again, a fast guy isn’t gonna be troubled IMO. Your mileage may vary.

  • VForce

    This is one of those “real” sport bikes though… someone posted that on another thread when the topic of this bike came up…which now is even sillier knowing the price/specs.

  • Oliver Seibert

    I really don’t understand how they can be this low on power

  • DOT/EPA restrictions. The RC213V-S is such a compact machine, Honda wasn’t able to build into the design the proper exhaust volume to make it meet emissions and noise standards, which would be the usual trick to make something like this street legal. So, they had to go the other way with it…cut RPM until it was road-legal. By the time they were done, it was 101hp strong.

  • Oliver Seibert

    Thanks for the quick response.
    So, it is only the ECU that holds it back? If so, what would it take to remedy it and would it be easy? I can’t imagine many Americans would be interested at all if it required a lot of work to bring it up to race spec, seeing as the sport pack isn’t even allowed.

  • stickshift3000

    I’m sure there would be some ways for US owners to get hold of the sports kit…

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    Official information on the ‘Sports kit’.

    In this Sports Kit, Kit parts below are included.

    -Engine control unit

    -Fr air duct

    -Exhaust muffler

    -AI joint cover set

    -Spark plug

    -Loadcell type quick shifter

    -Gear shift drum (reverse)

    -Data logger set

    -Rr cushion connecting rod

    -Fr brake pad

    -Fr brake lever remote adjuster

    -Thermostat set

    -Sprocket set

    -Clutch guard (CFRP)

    -Fr cowl under cover

    -Fr winker hole plug

    -Seat back rubber

    -Lower cowl drain cap

    -Harness modification set

    -Fr/Rr maintenance stand

    -Indoor machine cover

    Why no dry clutch!?

  • Understanding that it’s a subject that I can’t ask Honda about, I would say that’s probably it…that and the stock exhaust has some physical restrictions.

    The thing is though, where are you going to get a different ECU? There are tuners out there that can hack a stock ECU, but I doubt any of them would touch a $184,000 motorcycle.

  • I’m sure there would be some ways, but it would be very difficult. Not too many dealerships are going to be able to order these parts, and how many “replacement” sport kits do you think it’ll take before Honda gets leery?

  • Mitchel Durnell

    Exactly! And even if you could you’d need a crazy starting machine to start it, and you could never turn it off unless you had the machine with you, and a million other things about real race bikes that make them impossible to ride anywhere else but the track. This is a MotoGP race bike clone that is street legal.

  • Mitchel Durnell

    Read some of the other responses. There are very specific reasons why the numbers are what they are. You really don’t understand if you think Honda made this available to sell to someone looking at a ZX-10R.

  • Jorge

    The price says Honda didn’t really want to build this bike but felt that had to. I do hope the design work that went into this will translate 98% into their liter bike update. e.g. Those handlebar mounted mirrors with race guards look mass production to me. I hope I’m right.

  • Alex Grossi

    I guess I should have been clearer.

    The general sportbike population doesn’t really care about engineering OR is unwilling/unable to pay for it and a common ego culture no doubt keeps out many that would otherwise participate. Deriding the RC213V-S and its buyers is detrimental for the genre.

  • Mitchel Durnell

    Nah, we won’t see those on another bike. I think they did that to keep the fairings completely clean of ‘street’ accessories, for those that will buy then display this bike (popping the mirrors off). Also, bar end mirrors means no bar end weights which affect riding comfort, a consideration for bikes that are not MotoGP replicas.

  • grahluk

    Well, I’m glad Honda finally brought it out. Yes it’s a little underwhelming in street trim for what it is and a little obscenely expensive. The latter I can live with, the former is somewhat embarrassing for what it is.

    The price is reasonable (stay with me) if we’re talking an ultra limited hand built factory GP bike. The price is not about performance it’s about exclusivity. As said before there are no Japanese factory MotoGP bikes in existence that aren’t currently on the grid, in museums, or prize trophies of world champions. How do you expect to join that crowd? MotoGP bikes to me are the ultimate performance art. They are created under great pains and expense, go out into the world for a brief period to perform, then are dismantled, harvested for reusable parts, then the core machine is dropped into the crusher. So now if you pony up a briefcase full of money you can have what you’d have to have a rider contract or factory engineer’s badge to lay hands on. Yes this is neutered. It’s hardly intended to go out and perform. Those bikes in the museums and former champions’ hands aren’t even that. They’re paperweights. They don’t run. I think I remember that Rossi’s M1’s have no engine internals. Just cases & heads bolted into the frame. So at least this MotoGP bike runs. In fact, it’s register-able to run on the public roads. It’s like the ultimate GP collectible that can sit in a glass case in your corner office or company lobby like any obscenely expensive art trinket and on weekends you can fire it up and cruise around on it. Nobody’s going to be flogging any of these at the price they cost or the likely scarcity of spares. Not likely anyone could flog it to it’s potential short of people you’ve heard of and seen grid up on a Sunday grand prix. Had I the money for such things I’d have no problem deciding to put my name down for one. Only problem would be choosing testing black or HRC tricolor. Hell, I’d order one, get the other set of bodywork, then maybe a third to get painted up in factory Repsol colors and change them out as my mood fancies.

    What I agree is kind of lame is the performance. I get why as Jensen & others have pointed out. Still, 101hp at 8k rpm and 170kilos? Really? It makes the same power as my bone stock CBR600RR, weighs about the same and has 5k less revs? That’s shameful! I get it though. You can’t make a thoroughbred into a plow horse so easily. At that price though I think that the “sport” package should come included in the bike purchase. For the US it should just be HRC kit parts package with the disclaimer that it’s for “competition use only”.

    Also some inexplicable observations of cheapness from pouring over the pics dump of this rare bird.
    1-cast Brembo calipers. What not even the top of the line billet monoblocs?

    2-No left hand lever brake adjuster. This is a race replica right?

    3-no QD brake lines. This is a race replica right?

    4-Moto GP Ohlins or just off the shelf super bike FGR forks & TTXGP shock?

    5-OEM plastic oil fill cap. I know silly nit pic and the real GP bikes often use such parts bin items sometimes.

    6-OEM CBR gas cap? OK, I know it wouldn’t have the fancy quick fill ones so it would be easier at the pump but at least they could have had HRC mill up some fancy machined one like all the aftermarket ones people slap on their street bikes.

    7-tail light unit looks like it was adapted from a universal fit LED tail light out of a catalog. Was hoping for something more integrated and maybe with cues to the RC dual block tail lights of the RC30, RC45, RC51.

    8-Wonky headlight look like an afterthought. Since they take up the entire air intake opening the bike uses those tiny intakes under the upper cowl. Why both then? Should just have molded in a single projector above the intake and left them as is. I bet the “sport” package has new intake tubes & plenum that uses the opening that the headlight occupies.Ah yes, looks like it does. OK, makes for a quick change out. Still seems ad hoc. They could have had a different upper cowl with sexy endurance style projector and “sport package” would include a race upper cowl.

    9-no open clutch like the race bike? Gosh, some of my favorite things of GP bike porn is watching those open clutches counter rotating in super slo mo. If I had this bike I’d want that!

    10-cheap looking plastic drive sprocket cover. I know, safety regulations. Owner will probably pull it off and throw it in a box. Still they could have made up some sexy matte carbon fiber thingy or skeletonized milled alloy one.

    11-plastic tire valve caps. I’m totally being a bitch here. The bikes on the grid may even use OEM plastic caps but dammit if I’m plopping down the price of a modest house or condo for a bike it should have special EVERYTHING! C’mon at least throw on some little alloy jobbies with HRC logos on the end inserts.

    12-On close up shots I can see the orange peel in the paint. Inexcusable on such a premium product. Yes it’s a racing bike, but no it’s not a race bike if ya know what I mean.

    13-Doesn’t look like there are any of the linear potentiometers on the suspension. What’s MotoGP electronics when you’re not even using all the sensors and inputs? If I spent yacht money on a bike I want to be able to take it to the track, pull back into the pits, plug it into the laptop and see cold hard data histograms of what an absolute mediocre rider I really am!

  • CaptD

    I like the rear view mirror mounts but even with those it is still overpriced because you could get a CRAZY fast electric bike for much less than that…

  • imprezive

    If you have $184k to drop on a motorcycle you have people who can get you a grey market sports kit in Europe and bring it over. They will probably sell like 10 in the US and 8 of those will sit in bubbles in a garage. I’m sure Honda doesn’t care if 2 people give them even more money to void the warranty on their stupid expensive bikes.

  • Ulysses Araujo

    Sooo… what’re you gonna do with a MotoGP race bike that has to be so restricted to comply with environmental regulations that ends up with 101 hp, on the street?

    Conversely, can you use a brand new 180hp V4 Aprilia RF on the track?

  • I at first thought it must have been a typo 101 HP. Surely they meant to type 201 HP. But then looking at the specs, I was wrong. It’s not a typo. I think the BMW oilheads are making more HP than that nowadays.

  • Doctor Jelly

    So it’s a dog bred for fighting, but with a muzzle strapped on right before it was thrown in the pit… I seem to be missing the point of this engineering exercise…

  • Mitchel Durnell

    Fricken thank you for writing this! I was thinking of writing something similar because *so* many commentors were completely missing the point of this bike. I think this thing is kinda boring! But I get why it exists and it’s purpose. Well said sir.

    1. Because this must be streetable, it must be controllable by the average rider. The pistons in the super Brembos may be too large or precise to allow for any ham fisting.

    3. Same reason as 1 – baking flex into the system for riders with poor brake skills. May have something to do with DOT/TUV compliance.

    4. Probably the 14k FGR forks unless Honda paid $$$$$ to Ohlins for 500 pairs of forks that Ohlins probably makes dozens of per year.

    7. Yeah, the real MotoGP bike has a neat brake light for the rain but it’s definitely not DOT/TUV compliant.

    11. Yeah not sure why every motorcycle that costs more than $4000 doesn’t just have alloy right angle stems. One of the best mods to do to any bike.

    13. Data suite from 2D probably costs another 180k.

  • Believe me, there are ways dude. You don’t wanna know about it, believe me. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon… with nail polish. Amateurs…

  • Piglet2010

    “On top of that the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers weren’t very good at selling ‘premium’ motorcycles.”

    That is because no one is impressed seeing a Japanese bike, no matter how good or fast, parked outside a fancy coffee shop. On the other hand, the great unwashed masses will ooh and aah if see you on a Ducati.

  • D19

    Like many others, I am still waiting for Honda to create a spiritual successor to the Honda RC45. This RC213V-S does not really mean anything to me (a VFR rider in the past, now crossplane R1 rider), as it is not a uber-trick homologation special platform for SBK racing, and I will most likely never see one at a trackday or on the road (let alone ride one or afford one).

    Honda, please make a 1000cc V4 Superbike (say under $25k, <450lb wet,excellent suspension, running gear, electronics, V4 character in spades, etc.) that can go head-to-head with the latest literbikes on the street, and campaign it at the WSB level and in national series. If you build it, many others and I will buy it. Promise.

    Ok, moaning over. I was just hoping for more bike for a lot less money.

    And thanks for the coverage, Jensen. Good stuff.

  • D3

    Those serious race Brembo’s have no dust seals, just fluid seals for less stiction and better release. Brembo probably wouldn’t want to redesign a caliper just for this bike.

    Those certainly aren’t the full on Ohlins the real one runs. And I would wonder about the clutch, surely it must be a dry setup, just covered for safety

    The race kit details posted above actually look not too indepth. I was wondering whether it would be like the H2R, cam swap, head work, etc. Instead, it just seems like a pipe, intake and electronics. Something you would think would be fairly easy to deal with and unlock the 210 hp. I hope that is 210 at the wheel hahaha!

  • n/a

    According to the spec it is a dry clutch and as part of the sport kit ‘-Clutch guard (CFRP)’ to remove the original cover and show the clutch

  • Supertard

    I will put my KTM 1290 Super Duke in “rain mode” and save myself 190 grand!

  • Mitchel Durnell

    I think Honda has been really hesitant, but I think a replacement for the Fireblade with a 1000cc V4 really would be a blockbuster. It’s just a big risk for a company that doesn’t take a lot of risks.

  • Jorge

    OK good to know, and you seem to know a lot given all your posts…

  • Gene Boothe

    Expensive yes, amazing YES!!! Power numbers aside, I like that it’s detuned, If I had the coin for this machine I would baby it and only ride it to the Sunday meetup at the local breakfast joint, so that one day I could pass it down to my nephews and they could do the same someday, anyway… Even if I was rich enough to afford 3, I still wouldn’t flog it around the track, it’s a piece of art! I guarantee you, the finished product that shows up from Honda to the customer is PERFECT in every sense of the word. One thing that seems to get lost with the Honda diehards like myself and maybe never heard of by the Honda haters, is that they are the most meticulous crafters when it comes to producing “special run” machines or racing machines for that matter… motorcycles especially. For Mr. Honda, the motorcycle was his passion first and foremost and I believe that this is a homage to him and the country of Japan after all they have been through the last few years (remember giant earthquake, tsunamis….) Anywho… haters gonna hate… I just hope to be able to see one in person, it would be like seeing the loch ness monster! I unfortunately will not be buying one of these beautiful machines, but I will be checking out the Africa Twin once that hits the shores!!! Honda… BUILD AN AFFORDABLE V4 FIREBLADE!!!! Hurry, before the sport bike market completely dries up and dies!

  • Joe

    Nicky Hayden’s bikes were customer bikes in 2014….. Right?
    Non-pneumatic valves, etc… Honda MotoGP customer bikes…
    Wonder how much those are selling for ?
    The team needs $ for the next season and the Teams are able to sell them…..

  • Joe

    RCV1000R

  • Mitchel Durnell

    Nice, somehow bringing politics into this, you wingnut piece of crap. Go back into your hole.

  • Joe

    It shouldn’t be that hard to build a new, more affordable, V4 SBK weapon using tech-stuff from this RC213V-S project.
    Perhaps there is hope for a hot new RVF1000R and a RVF600R.

  • Mitchel, I read your previous comments but allow me to tell you that if Honda wanted to justify this absurd price-tag this project -should and must- be a REAL replica like the Desmosedici. This bike has nothing to do with the heritage and mystique of top level racing.

  • Don’t blame the Italians because they design better products than the rest, whether this is a bike or even a door handle…

  • In other words $184k is the starting base????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This is hilarius to say at least!
    With that load of cash, I would go straight away to RM auctions. I would certainly find something interesting to fit the bill ;)

  • Piglet2010

    So that is why the FIAT Strada destroyed the Honda Civic in sales in the US in the early 1980’s, with Honda turning tail and leaving the market completely, while FIAT went on to sales success after success in this market where value takes precedent over status.

    The only markets the Italians beat the Japanese in are those where status counts more than value. Note that the best selling scooters in Italy are not Vespe or anything else from an Italian brand, but from Honda.

    Ducati sold what, 46,000 expensive toy motorcycles in 2014? Honda sold more than 17 million motorcycles, mostly to people who rely on them for daily transportation.

  • I repeat: Italians design better, not constructing better. My comment had only to do with ‘the visual applause’, ( not functionality or quality, (a sector of Japanese superiority).

  • grahluk

    This word you use; design. To borrow from Inigo Montoya in The Princes Bride “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
    Functionality and often quality are components of design. I think the word you’re searching for is styling. Yes the Italians kick the whole world’s ass in styling. The other parts of a given design though not so much. “Visual applause”? Now this I don’t know what you mean. Maybe it’s related to this converse sneaker campaign I keep seeing in the subways here in NYC. Lots of large well photo’d pictures of sneakers that people personalized with markers, paint, sequins, glitter, etc, etc. Each photo has a caption saying “Designed by (insert owner’s name)” So I guess design now is reduced to simply decorating never mind what the actual object is?

    Design? This RC213V-S is a moto engineering marvel. Heavily restricted in street form, horrendously expensive but a marvel of design. It’s horrendously expensive and neutered but the design is intact. That’s what makes it special.

  • Oliver Seibert

    Totally agree with ya. I wouldn’t put my hand in that.
    Hopefully someone will find out.

  • Oliver Seibert

    I’d hate to think that for the past ten years or however long we have been waiting for this V-4 unicorn, it all ends with a highly restricted, half-powered, carbon cbr1000 thats a bit prettier than the showroom model.

  • Michael Knauer

    The biggest disappointment I’ve seen…my 13 year old rc51 has better specs then this…why Honda? I’ve waited over a decade to buy the next Rc, then you give it a $185,000 price tag which broke my heart, but knowing it’ll be a 101hp turd, I’m relieved…only the super ignorant with too much money to know what to do with will have this let down of a bike….looks like the r1m or hp4 will be the next bike I get!

  • Michael Knauer

    If that’s the case then why give it a $185,000 price tag…the whole point of buying a rare prototype bike is to have its rare prototype specs. You’re basically saying why buy a Ferrari when you can buy a fiero and put a Ferrari body kit on it.

  • I will agree in general with the term styling, though I don’t agree that quality is a component, (or maybe better a part), of design. ‘Visual applause’ stands for the ooh and aaah response of the masses when they see an Italian diva, (aka Ducati).
    And no, with these technical specs, and without the sports-kit as standard equipment, this bike is not an engineering marvel like the mighty NR, or the new R1-M. This is a cold shower on the anticipation of every moto enthusiast.

  • Jonathan Chao

    Agreed totally.

  • grahluk

    Ok. I’ll give you that. Quality can be viewed different ways. There’s quality resulting from the materials used and precision in executing a design and there’s quality inherent in a design. Two kitchen knives of identical design but one from finer materials and superior craftsmanship would be the higher quality knife. So there quality would be different from design. On the other hand you could build a Yugo out of aerospace materials but it would not become a quality car.

    As for the RCV I’d contend that it is indeed an engineering marvel. It’s street specs are due to artificial restriction from regulations. The design remains. You could wheel the RCV into a GP team’s shop swap out the street parts for the track parts and you’d basically have the spring valved, non seamless transmission RCV213-RS Nicky Hayden and Scott Redding ran last year. Even if you fitted carbon brakes and Bridgestone GP shod 16/5″ wheels it would still be nowhere near a GP bike.

  • Gerald Irish

    “That is because no one is impressed seeing a Japanese bike, no matter how good or fast, parked outside a fancy coffee shop. On the other hand, the great unwashed masses will ooh and aah if see you on a Ducati.”

    Right, but why is that? Some of that is because Ducati benefits a bit from the Italian supercar halo. But beyond that, Ducati does several things to position themselves as a premium manufacturer that the Japanese manufacturers don’t.

    Ducati tries very hard to position their brand as premium from their dealership displays, to merchandising, to product placement, to the ownership experinece, to their marketing materials. Ducati does a lot of lifestyle marketing around their brand to promote this idea of something somewhat exotic. Then there’s the actual product. Typically Ducatis look sexy and have the sound to match. There are plenty of very good looking bikes from Japan but sexiness is usually not a primary design goal.

    The Japanese manufacturers are more mainstream so to an extent they can’t do the same thing. But ultimately if you want to sell more expensive machinery, you have to look and act the part. Gotta sell the sizzle along with the steak.

    Going back to bikes like the RC30, RC45, NR750, and R7, they were all exotics in their own right but Honda and Yamaha didn’t really market them as such (save for the NR). I think if the Japanese manufacturers worked on creating a mythos and experience around more expensive offerings they could easily sell more bikes in the price range of the more expensive European bikes.

  • This is true about the R1-M, but its price is quite fair for what it is. On the other hand the price of this Honda is absurd considering its specs. As another commenter put it very wisely: when you give that kind of money for a prototype, you want the prototype specs either; in other terms you want to buy a benchmark. It just doesn’t justify its price for me, and it is not as innovative as NR was back then.

  • lol if you believe that it will just only make 101hp then something must be really wrong with your head or just hating.

    It will make 200+ hp but only if you use “the kit”. and only for the track!
    you can drive it down the road but you don’t go racing on the street. its not a 200 hp street bike.

  • Mitchel Durnell

    But this is the whole Ferrari. And in fact, not a Ferrari engineered to run on public roads, but a Race Ferarri that wasn’t. And it has been neutered specifically enough to appease DOT and TUV in this year of our Lord 2015, the harshest year on record for vehicle compliance. Have you seen how big exhaust systems for road going bikes are now?

    Yes you can get the Sport Kit that hops up the bike. Yes you can have the real potential of the bike unlocked via warranty voiding tuning, yes you can have the exhaust pulled off and replaced with race-only exhaust, yes you can get the bike back to near or identical specs as the Honda RC213V-RS. You could, because this is that bike; a pure race bike with enough compromises baked into it that you can run it on the street.

    Grahluk’s post outlines why this bike commands the price it does. It is *literally* the only bike of it’s kind right now. Not even the Desmosedic D16R compares (different engine altogether from the MotoGP bike, for starters).

    I think the bike is boring. I think it is pointless to exist. I will probably never see one ridden, I will never ride one, and if I could I could probably ride a Fireblade faster. I could buy a fleet of track bikes for the cost of this bike. There’s a thousand logical, negatives things I can say about this bike. But *what* it is and *why* it is, is undeniable. Don’t miss the point.

  • Piglet2010

    While some of the older Ducati sportbikes are beautiful, the current crop is nothing to write home about – including the Panigale. Of course, I am a bit biased against the latter, since I took a Total Control class with a guy on one, and kept on thinking how ugly the exhaust springs looked (like something off a screen door) when I was waiting behind him to run a drill.

  • Piglet2010

    There is more to it than that.

    Even hear the terms “J@p Cr@p”, “Rice Burner”, etc? Yet, how often do you hear ethnic slurs about a European bike?

    I know dressed exactly the same way, I will get lots of dirty looks and even direct negative comments on my Honda Deauville (ignorant people think it is Japanese, when it is really Catalonian) or other Japanese bikes, but the Bonnie gets positive reactions, even from much of the H-D crowd.

    People complain about the value of Japanese bikes, but slap a Ducati tag on a Japanese sportbike, or a H-D label on a Japanese cruiser, and raise the price by 30%, and suddenly people would find them acceptably priced.

  • paulus

    AND no official support for the race kit sales. WTF.

  • paulus

    bear in mind the sports kit supply will be restricted and possibly only to registered owners… registered in the US… ‘sorry Sir/Madam’.
    After market/tuners is possible… but then you devalue your baby.

  • Moto 949

    Anybody have a Japanese calendar? I wanna see if this bike was released on the Japanese April Fool’s Day.

  • Shamwarrie

    You can use a RC45 or RC51 on the road and pretend you are Colin Edwards rather. A much better option than this thing. I would never spend that money on something that is supposed to be(come) a legend when it’s obviously not. Spend less and buy an ex WSBK Ducati 998 Bayliss bike or similar.

  • kes

    Even if it is easily takeable to 200mph, why would you buy it?

    I’d get a Vyrus and have money left over. Or a Desmosedici. Or both. Add in an NCR.

  • Renato Valenzuela

    i think the true point of this bike is bridging the gap between MotoGP and SBK development. Because Honda pretty much phones it in with their non-existent SBK effort. The RC213V-S screams homologation special. I’m thinking the CBR’s days of Honda’s top sportbike for the street are numbered. Only brochure-reading fanboys that wanted something to rally behind are groaning at this bike. I think it’s an excellent effort.

  • Keith Schiffner

    Indeed, I was rather underwhelmed. The H2 street and H2R smoke it on every level for me.

  • n/a

    RC45 and RC51 are not MotoGP replica’s though, are they? Don’t even get me started on the RC51 being a mass produced, non-HRC Honda.

    With ‘this thing’, if you’ve got enough cash to buy one, you can pretend you are Marc Marquez…

    It’s funny how the people that seem to be complaining about this RCV always bring ‘Ducati’ into the conversation!

  • gary ritts

    Most of you are idiotz, it WILL have over 225 hp, weigh 375 wet after it’s properly set up and cost millions less than Marks ride for the discerning few collectors who have the coin. Just think, with this caliber of gear you could slap Marquez in the face and challenge him to a race.

  • Richard Last

    Good response Mitchel. However your well meaning efforts are lost on most people who “don’t get it”. They don’t want to get it. The easiest person, company, motorcycle, car, etc. to hate is the one that seems to have everything. Nuff said.

  • Shaswata Panja

    Hehehehehe This is becoming a joke..If you ever mount the sportskit to get the full 215-220bhp on track, it automatically voids the warranty..This is the main reason sports kit is not being offered in USA

  • This bike seems to gain horsepower with every passing day…

    Note the official spec is “over 158 kW” – 158 kW is 211.88 hp.

  • Neco

    Honda may want to rethink the HRC acronym!