MotoCzysz Fielding Two Bikes at the Isle of Man TT

05/18/2011 @ 11:04 am, by Jensen Beeler19 COMMENTS

MotoCzysz Fielding Two Bikes at the Isle of Man TT MotoCzysz E1pc Laguna Seca 635x374

Sources have been hinting that MotoCzysz had two bikes in the works for the upcoming TT Zero, and now we’ve gotten confirmation from the Portland, Oregon company that it will indeed be fielding two bikes at the Isle of Man TT. As with the past two years, Mark Miller will be at the helm of the MotoCzysz machine, but this year he will be joined by Michael Rutter on the second Czysz bike.

Mark Miller rode the MotoCzysz E1pc to victory last year during the TT Zero, while Rutter was a solid Top 10 contender in the Superbike, Superstock, and Senior TT classes. Though the Englishman has won 27 BSB Championship races, and competed in both MotoGP and World Superbike, this will be Rutter’s first foray into electric motorcycle racing.

Details are sketchy on MotoCzysz’s 2011 bike, though we imagine describing it as harder, better, faster, stronger wouldn’t be stretching reality too far. The news that MotoCzysz will have two bikes at the Isle of Man is certainly interesting, as the Oregonian company is clearly gunning for the 100mph mark, and the outright win.

Idle speculation on our part here at A&R would be that one bike will be a standard track/road course machine, while the other would be purpose-built for TT duty. We’ll have to wait and see if our hypothesis is correct, but you can be certain Michael Czysz is keen on keeping his TT Zero record intact.

Photo: MotoCzysz

Comment:

  1. Brammofan says:

    Cool. We were just discussing this over on the elmoto forum. I had heard that he had three bikes, but two sounds good. Best of luck to Mark Miller and Michael Rutter.

  2. dp says:

    My guess is that its a dustbin bike:

    http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/motoczysz-e1pc-dustbin-ready-iomtt/

    I can remember Czysz saying if they had built something that looks like a cigar, they could go well over 100 mph average. They just didn’t want to do that last year.

    Maybe they want to try that now.

  3. DeezToolz says:

    Haha, you said “idle speculation,” which is funny because electric bikes don’t idle.

    Cheeky baastid.

  4. Isaac Chavira says:

    I can’t wait until it gets unveiled next month. I hope it’s not a dustbin machine. The winds on the Island will blow that bike around like a paper aeroplane.

  5. deejay51 says:

    Top marks to MotoCzysz for what will be a huge effort to field two machines in the TTZero 2011 event.

    I would be amazed at a dustbin effort, no way, they are dangerous in cross winds and I was sure they had been outlawed by the FIM decades ago. However the TTXGP 2010 winning ‘Team Agni’ did enter one in TTZero 2010 here: http://www.deejay51.com/tt2010_tt_zero.htm

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  8. Jim Bob says:

    It would be very exciting to see Motocysz, Mission Motors, Brammo, and Lightning Motors at Laguna Seca this July.

    Motocysz was there last year. Will they be there again?

  9. Tom says:

    How can Motoczysz even compete at all? They’ve been around for years and never sold a single bike nor competed in a single season? Where is their cash flow?

  10. One does not have to sell bikes to make money.

  11. Jeram says:

    yep

    evertime they pass gas, the international motorcycle media swoops

    they get as much coverage as the big time stars

    there lies your income…. sponsorship

    they may also make income in the form of electric drive-train research grants

  12. Remind me: Would a dustbin fairing be legal under TT Zero rules?
    I’ve long been in support of freeing ‘prototype’ (ie: MotoGP) classes from fairing rules that are dated and arbitrary. Allowing unlimited aero freedom in those classes would help to differentiate them from production-based classes (ie: SBK).
    In the case of e-moto racing, it would probably serve to give the electric bikes a ‘futuristic’ look that might really capture fans’ attention.

    While we’re at it, though, it’s worth noting that the ridiculous drag coefficients that modern motorcycles are saddled with are not the only holdover from days when 100mph was fast. The overall shape of modern sport bikes in general – and telescopic front forks in particular – are probably what an engineer would choose for a single-track racing vehicle if he was starting from a clean sheet. Or, a screen without a single pixel on it…

    So far, electric motorcycle designers have almost without exception focused on the ‘electric’ part and taken the motorcycle for granted. We don’t just need freer rules. We need freer thinking.

  13. Brammofan says:

    Hi Mark. Yes, the TT Zero rules allow dustbins. “The rider must be completely visible from either side, except for the riders hands and forearms which may be obscured by bodywork.” Within that basic rule, a dustbin is possible.

  14. Mark says:

    @Mark Gardiner. I don’t really agree with your assertion that motorcycle development has been stagnated by the rules.
    Motorcycles are highly developed and refined animals. There are no rules limiting where the engine can be placed or where the rider is positioned, yet all of them place the rider and engine in almost exactly the same place. This didn’t happen by accident or convenience. Just look at how a small difference in weight balance or aerodynamics effects the overall performance of a bike.

    Rossi is having a heck of a time getting Ducati’s GP11 to perform properly, mainly because of a slightly more rearward weight bias due to the architecture of their L-Twin engine.
    Casey Stoner also had issues with the Ducati GP10 bike earlier last year when Ducati extended the fairing sides 2 inches further forward which made it much too sensitive and unstable in cross winds, they modified the fairing accordingly and the issue was solved. Imagine the effect of dramatically increasing the side area by using a dustbin fairing would have on the stability of a bike if only a couple of inches on the GP10 was enough to cause a problem.

    It also makes no difference if the bike is powered by an electric motor or a gas engine, a motorcycle is still a motorcycle, the dynamic forces are the same regardless.

  15. hoyt says:

    Good points from both Marks.

    Innovation would be opened up more if electrics for the track would be developed with a clean sheet. A good example, as Mark G mentioned, is the front suspension. Proper suspension should not be developed in a silo “next” to the motorcycle. It needs to be part of the whole development with the chassis and motor. For close to a century, almost all chassis design has been done from the steering neck to accommodate a tele. then the motor and rest of the chassis is included. (Example: http://moto2-usa.blogspot.com/ This motor will be integrated with the front-end and the rest of the chassis from the beginning.)

    Look at the weight savings James Parker has achieved with his latest GSX-RADD. Electrics are porky, so why has no one been working on an alternative front-end to help cut weight? Czysz has one, but it still involves a stout neck that is light due to cf.

    Mark G. -

    Did you mean to include a “” in this comment:
    “he overall shape of modern sport bikes in general – and telescopic front forks in particular – are probably “” what an engineer would choose for a single-track racing vehicle if he was starting from a clean sheet.

  16. hoyt says:

    oops…looks like I inadvertently used some html in my last sentence above. “Not”

  17. shallwedance? says:

    Rutter will win the race

  18. Mark says:

    hoyt, I agree, front suspension technology is an area with lot’s of room for improvement, electric drive or not. I was looking forward to Moto2 as a platform to develop some alternatives, instead they are using the same old racing mentality of making whats known to work a little better rather than using better, yet unproven technology.

  19. Dr. Gellar says:

    That’s a pretty big play by MotoCzysz to sign Michael Rutter to ride their 2011 E1pc. Even more so that last year, they are not messing around. My guess is that that 100mph average lap around the Isle of Man for the TT Zero event is going to be achieved this year. Even if the MotoCzysz team isn’t the one that gets it (first)…someone is going to.

    I’m with Jim Bob….I’m really hoping we get MotoCzysz, Lightning, Brammo and Mission (and hopefully some other surprises as well) to compete against each other at the Laguna Seca FIM e-Power/TTXGP race in July. To see all four teams on the same track together will be a lot of fun! Especially if some teams, like MotoCzysz and Lightning, enter two machines each. Be nice to get about 10-12 bikes on the track for the race, if that is possible.