Update on the Bottpower BOTT XR-1

02/07/2012 @ 7:15 pm, by Jensen Beeler29 COMMENTS

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It is sad to say, but the Harley-Davidson XR1200X is just about the only thing from the Milwaukee brand that intrigues me. And what kills me the most is that Harley-Davidson could really add something more to its product line up if it just explored the flat-tracker aesthetic in greater detail with its brand. Instead of bringing to market twenty or so variations on the same cruiser shape, Harley-Davidson could really bolster its brand with younger riders if it simply tapped into the street-tracker/scrambler movement that is percolating underneath the “looks like a Power Ranger” street scene.

Wake up Milwaukee, because the emo-teenger, full of high school angst, has matured into the “college is for pussies” hipster scene, which is comprised of an eclectic group of people that have been collectively displaced out of the 1940’s and into the new millennium + 10 years. Building a brand off the 1% rebel perception, I don’t know why its such a hard concept for Harley-Davidson to understand that it can latch onto these new-age bohemians, and create a similar bond with them as it did with the Baby Boomers so many years ago. After all, there is already great symmetry between the two cultures, as both Harley-Davidson and the hipster elite seem forever-fixated on a period in time that is far enough removed from our parents’ generation to be considered cool again.

What the hipsters wouldn’t like of course is the Bottpower BOTT XR-1. A racier and more custom version of the Harley-Davidson XR1200X (The BOTT XR-1 is actually based off a Buell motor), Bottpower has done such a good job making the Buell look Alana Blanchard hot that the Voltron generation will forget all about the reasons their didn’t like the Bar & Shield brand in the first place, and instantly liquidate their pre-IPO Facebook stock in order to make room for Bottpower’s work in their marina-view apartments. Needless to say, I like what’s going on here.

With Bottpower fitting the headlight, and oil-cooler behind the number plate, it seems that the final version of the BOTT XR-1 will stay very true to its CAD form. A company already known for melding form and function together well, we’ll have to wait with bated breath for more installments on this build’s burlesque-like progress in the coming days.

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Source: Bottpower; Photos: Flickr

Comment:

  1. Keith says:

    I am massively well endowed so take that excess 450cc donate it to some peewee bike and shave another 25lb, swap up to a 22l fuel tank and ffs put some close fitting fenders that WORK on it.

    Why? Real motorcyclists ride in the rain.

  2. MikeD says:

    Digging it. Wich Buell engine does it have ?…the 900 engine could have done just fine.
    With the 1200 this thing has to be a wheele monster and leaps forward like like a frog on crack.

  3. Steve Lang says:

    Where do I send my deposit? Now…. that’s a Harley I would ride.

  4. Minibull says:

    Serious? Buttpower? I guess thats where the lovely exhaust note comes from…

  5. Andrew says:

    I have never liked Harley’s for their lack of innovation or change but this machine is cool. I would be tempted by this franistien creation.

  6. Tom Z says:

    @MikeD Its the XB12 motor… you can tell by the primary cover.

  7. GeddyT says:

    “Burlesque-like progress”? What’s that even mean?

  8. JoeD says:

    Hmmm, a Sporty Bike from HD. Really? Are you serious? A friend had the XR1200. Had. It was a slug. The suspension was crap and the power was more in line with a 650/4 from the seventies. The Sportster is already top heavy and the frame on this one looks as though it only adds more weight higher up and then a fuel tank is added. The word on the street is “The Sportster is a Girl’s Bike” and is prolly one reason why the big twin is the top seller. You just cannot look cool on the GurlyBike. Even when dressed as a pirate in drag. Power Rangers are way more cool.

  9. RGR says:

    I don’t like Harley so take it for what it’s worth, but they make bikes for a certain type of rider and they don’t understand any other type of rider. Just like Harley riders don’t understand any other type of bike. It’s a match made in heaven. As consumers, we shouldn’t expect either side to step out of their comfort zone, and I have no problem with that. If you don’t expect it, then you’re not let down when HD doesn’t come out with anything interesting or different. Harleys are made for a certain type of person and if you’re not that person, just ignore them and buy what you like.

    What irks me more is all the copycat companies that could do some cool stuff but refuse to because they’re trying to clone HD (like Victory). Victory has the resources and engineers to make some really interesting American bikes, but instead just keeps coming out with clone after clone (albeit better performing clones).

    Anyway, why should HD cater to “the emo-teenager, full of high school angst, has matured into the “college is for pussies” hipster scene”. I’m guessing this group has no funds and can’t afford new Harleys anyway.

  10. Jimmy Midnight says:

    Guys! Stop dreaming, Stortz Performance has been building these for years! Check’em out!
    http://www.storzperf.com/jpgs/page20.html

  11. fazer6 says:

    What i don’t get is that this seemingly has identical performance to a Buell XB12S, but must cost 3-4 times as much (or more), just for a style exercise?

    And to call this a “custom version of the Harley-Davidson XR1200X” is just dumb, since it looks to not share a single part with that bike, rather it takes a rolling chassis and engine from a Buell (which IS based on the sportser motor), swaps the frame for a custom unit (which looks to be quite a bit flexier than the stocker) and makes it look like a XR.

    While I like the end result, I wouldn’t buy one, especially when I can pick up an XB12 for $3k.

  12. Richard Gozinya says:

    @Jimmy Midnight

    The Bott XR-1 is a lot different than anything Storz has to offer. All new chassis, and it uses the XB12 motor, instead of a Sportster motor.

    As to Harley, and it’s pervasive lameness, I just think it’d be nice if they had something that could compete on its own merits against bikes like the Griso, R1200R, Monster 1100 etc. Seems like the “Sport”ster should be doing that, but it doesn’t, not even in XR1200 form.

    And those 20 something hipster types are more likely to go for an old UJM and café it out.

  13. Jimmy Midnight says:

    Oh there’s no doubt the BOTT is different but the Storz actually exsists not just a test mule and some CAD drawings. You can even build your own piece by piece depending on your budget. Besides, the exhaust on the Storz is way cooler than anything Buell has to offer. Not to mention chain drive vs. belt? Nuff said!

  14. TRL says:

    20 years ago there were just a few of us who rode Flatheads, FXRs, SS400s, T100s, GPzs, 4 pipe Magnas, or whatever was at hand, in the inner cities. We rode in every kind of weather, worked at dive bars, clubs and bike shops, worked after-hours every night and still made it to after-after hours. The chicks were tough and when they were in the mood, they took us to bed, in the bad part of town. In the morning, after they threw us out, we hauled our asses to the bike shop, in time for the first customers to drop off their bikes for service….it was fun and later we grew up…Hipsters are just poseurs, looking through a narrow focus lens, trying to recreate an arty, microbrew, version of that life without really taking any true risks….without the risk it’s just a late night B movie….they never would have survived.

    I hate Hipsters.

  15. Toby says:

    I dont get HD: just take the vrod engine and put it in a xr frame with some better brakes and suspension – ready is the first Harley u can actually ride fast in a more human like position.
    and dont change design, cos retro is in…

  16. Mark says:

    I don’t understand what’s so special about this bike. Yes it looks pretty cool, but will be a far inferior bike than the Buell XB donor bike was.

    Why would anyone want to throw away the stiff Aluminum, fuel in frame, Buell frame and replace it with a 1960’s spec steel backbone, that raises the center of mass, flexes more, and cuts fuel capacity in half, at least.

    All for looks I guess, in typical HD tradition.

  17. Westward says:

    – “far enough removed from out-(r) parents’ generation to be considered cool again.”

    ___edit out the above___

    I like where this project is heading….

  18. MikeD says:

    Mark says:
    February 8, 2012 at 10:24 AMI don’t understand what’s so special about this bike. Yes it looks pretty cool, but will be a far inferior bike than the Buell XB donor bike was.

    Why would anyone want to throw away the stiff Aluminum, fuel in frame, Buell frame and replace it with a 1960′s spec steel backbone, that raises the center of mass, flexes more, and cuts fuel capacity in half, at least.

    All for looks I guess, in typical HD tradition.
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    Because:

    Some of us would like just THAT. Different horses for different courses. Yes, the Buell is a superior species(in your and my head so far)…but sometimes people just don’t care about that…case in point: Pirates riding H-Ds.

    If it makes u happy…ENJOY IT.

  19. Shawn says:

    @RGR “Anyway, why should HD cater to “the emo-teenager, full of high school angst, has matured into the “college is for pussies” hipster scene”. I’m guessing this group has no funds and can’t afford new Harleys anyway.”

    Because their current customers will soon be too old to ride a motorcycle and Harley should look into maintaining market share in the future. The first wave of baby-boomers are in their late 60s and will soon start putting away their leather chaps for good.

  20. David says:

    @Mark, the fuel capacity remains very similar, the XR-1 has a secondary fueltank under the rear shock. The chassis weights the same than the aluminium one and stiffness is also very similar to the original Buell chassis. Steel is 3 times stiffer than aluminium.
    I wouldn’t say that it will be inferior than a Buell XB. I think it is a different kind of bike. Appart of the aesthetics, the wide handlebar and the riding postion will make it a really funny bike to ride.

  21. Mark says:

    @David, yes, steel has 3 times the tensile strength of aluminum, but it’s also 3 times heavier. Given two properly designed frames of equal weight, the aluminum one will be stiffer, because the lighter material can be used to construct a larger beam. It doesn’t necessarily mean that it will be stronger, just stiffer.

  22. Dr. Gellar says:

    IMO this bike is pretty much what HD’s XR1200 should have been: a slick combination of mostly Harley dirt-tracker looks and Buell technology which equates to an XR750 racer-rep that is truer to the philosophy of that bike than the current XR1200 is. I like it…lookin’ forward to the finished product.

  23. EM says:

    I really do not understand why people go ape shit for the Harley Engine in a Better frame. Why not just do this with any other smaller, faster, more efficient engines available? Harley needs a more race ready Twin, Ducati is doing it why can’t HD do it?

    That being said this is the closest offering from HD since the old KR750s that I would consider buying.

  24. MikeD says:

    Ok. Correct me if im wrong…BUT…does it sound like “some” people around here think this project is backed, built, FUNDED, owned and what not by H-D ?!

    I hope not. U heard that, EM ?

    Oh, back to your question…”Why use H-D based engines ?” Easy, the H-D Engine is like the SBC of the motorcycle custom world. IT LENDS ITSELF TO ALMOST ANYTHING.
    And shitty, underpowered, heavy and what not we think around here it may be, the danm thing is pretty stout and anvil reliable when looked after. Not to mention the aftermarket support is endless.

    Tell me how many aftermarket billet crank builders for a Virago 1000 u know of ? Or RoadStar 1700 Cranks ? Or Suzuki M109 Cranks ? Heads ? Cams ? Complete aftermarket running engines ?
    Just trying to make a point not pick a “fight”.

  25. David says:

    @Mark, you are right. But in this case it is relatively easy to design a steel chassis with the same structural efficiency (stiffness / weight) than the Buell one. The Buell frame is a casted part, which means that its thickness is bigger than necessary in a lot of areas. It could be much more efficient if it was built using sheetmetal (which allows to achieve much thinner walls) like racebikes.
    Another point to consider is that the frame is attached to the engine through rubber and some tie rods. Which means that the real stiffness of the bike doesn’t rely only on the frame, it depends also a lot on the way the chassis is clamped to the engine.
    Anyway we are talking about street bikes, and they are not designed to achieve the maximun structural efficience. On a street bike, cost, reliability, aesthetics, etc. are normally more important than pure structural efficiency. With a street bike, at the end the important thing is if you like the bike and if you have fun with it.

  26. MotoRandom says:

    I am so glad to see progress being made on this project. I think that it’s going to turn out to be a really awesome bike in the end. I guess the styling is what brings up the Harley XR1000X but simple math will tell why that bike will pale in comparison. The XR1000 weighs 150 lbs more than the XB12S and makes 30Hp less. Which bike do you think will be faster and more nimble? Erik Buell really is one the most innovative motorcycle chassis engineers on the planet today. Why use such an “outdated lump of iron” for a motor? Torque. Gob-loads of it. Over a wide range of rpms. You don’t have to wind it up to full scream to get in to the power range. I think a lot of guys who gripe about the Buells have never spent much time riding one. Yeah, they don’t hit warp speed on the straight of your favorite racetrack but that’s not what they are made for. They are just flat out stupendous fun to rip around urban environments in. Don’t dis on them until you’ve actually spend some time doing this. You might be surprised.

    So, why would anyone ruin a perfectly good Buell to make one of these Botts? I suppose some will, just for style exercise. But I don’t think a lot of the naysayers are considering the more likely source of donor bikes. “Not so perfectly good Buells”. The fuel-in-frame chassis is a marvel of modern motorcycle engineering but can be easily damaged in a crash. Even the slightest crack in the frame and it doesn’t matter how good your welding skills are. The insurance company is going to write it off as totaled. Now there are a couple of chopper frames out there but what a waste of an awesome sportbike to end up to that fate. If this Bott bike were to exist as a viable options, there are a lot of XBs that will have a second chance at life. Go look at eBay and see how many Buell motors are for sale. Usually more of them than complete bikes on any given day.

    Yes, this bike fills a very tiny niche in the motorcycle world but it is one that is completely void of anything at this point. I really, truly hope nothing bad ever happens to my XB12sTT but if it does, I really, truly hope that this Bott bike will be alive and well in the market place so I can rebuild it into something that will still be just as fun for my urban moto entertainment.

  27. Harleys are lame says:

    It is still a stupid Harley motor. Stick a good powerplant in that and you would have something.

  28. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, I enjoyed riding my Daytona Special around on the back tire. One day, my dad offered me to take his Wide Glide out for a spin. A little while later, I came back with a huge grin on my face. I understand “stupid Harley motor”, and it’s got some definite appeal.

  29. keith mckenna says:

    Love and agree with what RGR say’s about Victory. They could do anything, ANYTHING! And what do they choose? To play second fiddle to a company that refuses to commit to the future(or even the present). It’s strange to look at Victory’s parent company Polaris. They make snowmobiles and ATV’s. They race snowmobiles and ATV’s , and win on them. I’ll bet they could do the same with 2 wheels. I wish there was an office in Medina MN with Eric Buell’s name on the door.