Are You the Erik Buell Racing 1190RX?

07/25/2013 @ 3:19 pm, by Jensen Beeler22 COMMENTS


On its Facebook page right now, Erik Buell Racing is teasing a two-seater bike, which looks suspiciously similar to the EBR 1190RS homologation-special racing machine.

With EBR teasing the names of three future machines on its website: the RX, SX, and AX, those who are capable of putting two-and-two together can deduce that the Milwaukee-based company is getting ready to bring another version of its 1190cc street bike to market, complete with a pillion.

In addition to the two-seater, Erik Buell Racing is expected to bring to market both naked (1190SX) and adventure (1190AX) variants of its big-displacement machines, and the company is tipped to be working on a 250cc model for the world market as well.

Recently getting a serious cash infusion from Hero MotoCorp, to the tune of $25 million in exchange for 49.2% of the company, Erik Buell Racing finally has a healthy chunk of capital it needs to expand its product line and become a serious motorcycle company.

Working on establishing a dealer network in the US, as well as continuing its racing efforts in the AMA Pro Road Racing series, the post-recession reboot of Buell’s work is gaining traction for its hard work. Of course the proof will be in the pudding when it comes to the company’s 1190 line.

With the RS priced at $40,000 sans carbon fiber, it will be interesting to see where EBR prices the 1190RX, which because of manufacturing constraints, will likely still be sold with in limited quantities with a bit of sticker shock. Of course, time will tell.


Source: Erik Buell Racing (Facebook)

  • KK

    i just find it awesome how EB was able to bounce back so soon. To me thats the ultimate FU to H-D for screwing him over.

    Im glad he linked up with Hero and now has some cash flow to really do what he has been trying to do all this time….. an AMERICAN SPORT BIKE


  • kww

    Agreed, this is the ultimate F-U to H-D.

  • Antti L.

    Thank god for EB. More brands more bikes more fun.

  • smiler

    A small but bright light in US motorcycling. Always innovative, distinct and stylish.
    Glad to see him back in action and free of the Leather clad chrome lovers.

  • JoeD

    Mr. Buell realized early on the H-D engine was never going to be competitive against any thing and so went to Rotax for the power required by the public. H-D got their knickers in a knot and the rest is history. Sayonara H-D-good riddance.

  • keet

    i love anybody for giving a FU to H-D, but a $40k sportbike… really? Good luck selling all 5 of those…

  • motoavid

    At $30K – $35K it’s some serious competition for Motus. Especially the adventure model. The Uly was one of my favorite bikes. A modern Uly with Rotax motor might put serious hurt on the Motus Sport Tourer.

  • I didn’t care for the buell motorcycles because they took cutting edge ideas and executed them with lego styling, and it seems like he has yet to learn his lesson.

    Buells competition in this realm is not HD it’s with the J bikes and I can already tell the styling is sub triumph which I don’t find very appealing.

    Knock the iPhone for its various flaws but one thing that no android phone has done has matched the build quality and performance of similar components. Even the latest Samsung phones don’t match the original iPhone, which explains apples dominating position with relatively few offerings.

    Thats American engineering done right on the world stage.

  • sideswipeasaurus

    If you were to see one up close you’d understand why. Build quality and detail makes a Bimota look like a rough garage slap together.

  • Monster

    EBR commented on the photo saying it’s an EBR engine, not Rotax…

  • Faust

    Did they specifically say that it’s not made from the Rotax? Or did EBR just say it was their engine? The Rotax isn’t an 1190 until EBR gets ahold of it, it’s an 1125. EBR makes modifications to make it an 1190, but the engine they have been using is still a Rotax. Did they specifically say they aren’t doing that anymore, or was that just speculation based on them saying its their engine? Words mean stuff.

  • S3rider

    Some info which is out there, but apparently people haven’t bothered to look for:

    The 1190RX will (probably) be essentially the same basic bike as the RS, but with plastic bodywork, more standard suspension, and possibly some less trick brake and engine components. A price somewhere in the $20,000 range seems to be what everybody’s expecting.

    For alex’s enlightement, please note that Android-based phones outsell iPhones, more than two-to-one in several markets, and that Samsung is a primary supplier of components for iPhones. As to the rest of your comment, well… obviously reality isn’t your strong suit.

    Yes, Faust, EBR has stated outright that the engine in the 1190, while based on the 1125, is an EBR engine designed and built in Wisconsin. Rotax no longer has anything to do with it, and just for the sake of clarity, the 1190 engines were never modified 1125s. Again, the design is based on the 1125, but they’ve always been designed and built from the ground up as 1190s.

  • Faust


    People are not looking for the info? 1190 engines were never modified Rotax engines? Well, I’m sure you can see how people might be led to believe otherwise, given all the information to the contrary (perhaps you haven’t bothered to look for it)

    Motorcyclist Magazine September 2011 “Starting with brand-new, 1125cc Helicon engines purchased directly from Rotax in Austria, EBR builds competition-ready powerplants using the same aftermarket components as May’s racebike.”

    MotorcycleUSA Feb 2011 “Compared with Erik Buell’s last street-legal Superbike, the 1190RS goes bigger and slimmer. Bigger is the familiar Rotax Twin, bored out from its previous 1125 dimensions to its current 1190cc displacement.”

    Topspeed “As for the drivetrain, the 1190RS will feature converted Rotax motors from the 1,125 cc displacement it once had to a more powerful 1,190 cc.”

    Rideapart “We wouldn’t expect anything less of Erik Buell. He and his small team convert each EBR 1190RS from a Rotax 1125 by hand at their tiny East Troy, Wisconsin garage.”

    CycleWorld 2012 Buyer’s Guide “The 1190cc engine was created in East Troy by boring a Rotax 1125cc powerplant 3mm.”

    I could do this all day. Obviously the engines are assembled at EBR’s facility, but your exact words were that they were never modified 1125s. This is simply not in accordance with the facts. Later on Buell acquired the rights to make the engines in their own facility (reported in Cycle News, Sept 2012), but the 1190 program started by modifying 1125s. They were not “always” built as 1190s from the ground up as you claim. These are the facts.

  • S3rider

    Ummm… Wow. Really got your knickers in a twist, don’tcha, Faust my boy?

    I guess the “haven’t bothered” comment was a little snarky. I get that way sometimes. It’s a character flaw of mine which I deeply regret. I got Dr. Phil’s book, though, so I should be right as rain in no time! Thanks for caring! :D

    I said it because Erik Buell has been coy about when the next iteration of the 1190rs would arrive, but pretty up front about what it would be. I had just come from a site where people were speculating a little wildly about it, then here where something similar seemed to be happening, and gosh, I guess I just got a tad bit miffed that nobody seemed to be doing a little research. It wasn’t aimed at you, although you seem to have taken it awfully personally. Perhaps you should see someone about that.

    Speaking of research, aren’t you impressive! Titles and dates and quotes, oh my! I know none of your Top Secret Insider Sources would *ever* print anything which wasn’t 100% accurate, ’cause words mean stuff, right? (And let me take this opportunity to express my admiration for your command of the language!) Thanks for setting me straight. You’re a real mensch (which is a word that means stuff, btw. You should look it up).

    Just so you know how I went astray, the source for my statement was a video wherein Erik Buell (bah, what does he know?), in response to a question, stated that the 1190 was not a bored out 1125 but was built from the ground up as an 1190. Not as good a source as your top-flight engineering publications, I know, I don’t even have the month and date (or quotation marks!), and I probably misunderestimated him or something anyway. You see how it could happen, I’m sure.

    Thanks again, Faust, for enlightening me (and us all). You are truly a man among men. You just have a super bright sunshiny day, and say hi to your mom for me! Smooches.

  • Mr Sparkles

    40K for a production bike that won’t in anyway better the performance of any existing 12K bikes?

    Laughable at best. Laughable.

    America will never produce a sportbike worthy of purchase.

  • Faust


    It’s ok, we all make mistakes from time to time. I forgive you. Thanks for being a big boy and admitting you didn’t check out anything you stated to make sure it was actually true before you scolded people for not looking anything up. Don’t worry, I’m here for you. And now you know, and knowing is half the battle (GI Joe!).

  • Jar

    Watching EBR “move forward” seems a bit like watching youtube videos of cats chasing laser pointers – always flailing and jumping, but never really catching much of note.

    A pillioned variant, a naked, an adventure tourer, and a 2500cc(??!!?!) variant – from a company moving a total of 65 bikes in 2012? a goal of 20k units in 2017? Does anyone else see a laser pointer dot somewhere?

    At the end of the day, we have a $40k re-hash of a ride (the 1125) that only sold when HD pulled the plug and the fuglies were unloaded at firesale prices. Why on earth would anyone in their right mind fork over $40k for a few flecks of carbon fiber and relocated radiators? Oh wait, it must be the EBR motor they’re after – really? – I mean, if I change out my tires, set my sag, go with new fork springs and slightly heavier fork oil, am I a suspension tuner? EBR nicks 3mm from a cylinder and now it’s magically transformed (and $20k delicious!), and “his” – Rotax can lay no claim to the fundamental – their time, energy, effort, and engineering work has been erased….what a d***

    As for comments above:
    Faust, nice thump truth makes a beautiful bat
    S3rider, S3’s were born rubbish, much like your comments
    MrSparkles – Never say never, always have hope – just don’t drink the EBR koolaid, you’ll end up like S3 (however, I have little fear of such an occurrence)

  • S3rider

    Awww, Faust, you’re such an awesome guy. Thanks for being so gentle with me. I wanted to do something nice for you, so I thought you might like this. It’s from an email exchange which took place with EBR in August of 2011:

    “You still use the same engine, just bored out…correct?”

    “There are huge differences… the engine has some parts in common, but the crankshaft, rods, pistons, rings, pins, cylinders, heads, valves, cams, charging system, clutch, etc. are different.”

    Imagine that. Ok sweetpea, I’ve gotta go, I’ve actually got a life and all. You and the echo chamber have a good time, and remember guys, wrap that rascal! You don’t wanna catch anything nasty.

  • Faust

    It’s alright S3, you’re not the only person on the Internet that has no clue what they are talking about (but pretends to anyway). There’s millions of you.

  • Variable

    Lol, hey S3, so if you buy a Rotax engine, bore it out and drop bigger internals into it, it magically is not a Rotax anymore? You might want to sign up for some muscle car forums so you can explain to people how taking a Chevy motor, dropping bigger pistons, a reinforced crank and some valve train parts makes it not a Chevy engine anymore. They’ll get a big smile from you!

  • Grimey Benson

    Got to admire S3rider’s commitment to being wrong. Whereas most incorrect internet trolls would have packed up shop and headed to greener pastures, he has forged ahead upon his path of ignorant bliss!

    I commend your tenacity. Also, cool story bro.

  • jake318

    The EBR 1190RS is a very light and excellent handling motorcycle .But as far as power is concerned a STOCK 1190RS makes 145 hp at the rear wheel. The claims of 175-180 rear wheel horsepower is only attained if the EBR RACE KIT is installed for another 6000$. This pushes the price to 50,000$. That’s fine if your intending on professionally racing the EBR 1190RS , but a bit pricy for the average rider.