No, This is the “90%” New Ducati Desmosedici GP12

01/30/2012 @ 8:49 am, by Jensen Beeler13 COMMENTS

No, This is the 90% New Ducati Desmosedici GP12 Ducati Desmosedici GP12 Valentino Rossi 635x474

You may have been misled by some eager journalists today and yesterday, if you saw a Ducati Corse livery-clad Ducati Desmosedici GP12 that some sites were passing off as the first shots of the “90% new” GP12. With the alleged new GP12 looking surprisingly similar to the aluminum-framed “GP0″ that was tested at Valencia, Valentino Rossi’s mechanic has now Alex Briggs confirmed that the photos taken were not of the all new “GP12 Phoenix” that the factory team will race this season. While the Ducati lords can taketh away, they can also giveth, and Valentino Rossi himself has posted the first photo of the factory Desmosedici GP12, and the bike is clearly different.

Of course the changes everyone has been talking aboutfor the past months about are still hidden underneath the factory Desmosedici’s clothing, as Ducati has been able to adjust the GP12′s weight distribution on this new iteration. Though it’s likely to have remain unchanged, there has been considerable speculation that Ducati Corse’s Desmosedici GP12 will have a narrower cylinder angle, and depart from the 90° arrangement.

You’ll note the use of the words “factory team Desmosedici” as the satellite Ducati squads will use bikes based off the GP0 design, which debuted at the Valencia test last year. Karel Abraham has already debuted AB Cardion’s version of the satellite GP12, and while it sports an aluminum perimeter-style frame (rumored to have been built by British engineering firm FTR), we can see now that it varies slightly from the chassis the factory team is using at Sepang.

Photos That Are Not of the Ducati Desmosedici GP12 “Phoenix”:

Photos That Are of the Ducati Desmosedici GP12 “Phoenix”:

Source: Valentino Rossi (Twitter)

Comment:

  1. frijole says:

    I wanna see er nekkid… whats the motor angle?

  2. Laurençio says:

    What an ugly machine? I hope it cures Ducati’s MotoGP ills.

  3. doug says:

    Hmmm, looks a little dated and awkward…. Looks like an 84 Ninja

  4. BBQdog says:

    Tank made of rubber ??

  5. Patrick says:

    Who cares how it looks. If it’s fast it’s fast.

  6. Keith says:

    doug, you say that like it’s a bad thing. 8^)

  7. Dc4go says:

    I’LL TAKE THAT UGLY DUCKLING AS LONG AS IT’S FAST RACE IN RACE OUT!!!

  8. Bryan says:

    Ugly?? I LOVE the look of raw unfinished race bikes!

  9. mark says:

    Based on the photos of the new bike, I believe it’s still a 90deg V, but rotated backwards. The rear chassis cross member/shock mount is much further back than the GP0 to make room for the rear cylinder being further back than previous. A narrower V angle would have left the rear bank where it was, and closed the angle of the front bank.

    This makes sense, since a narrower V angle would require much more than just a new case, since the increased vibration would require a balance shaft, as well as different exhaust tuning, both of which Ducati has no data and experience with.

    A new engine case, with cylinders arranged in a V rather than an L, would allow the same cylinders and heads to be used, as well as all the same tuning data and models to still be used, while allowing the engine to be moved forward in the chassis. It’s still not ideal, since the more forward position of the engine is partially offset by the more rearward tilt of the rear top end, but should still result in a more forward overall weight distribution than the previous design. Hopefully it’s enough to do the trick!

  10. 76 says:

    Mark I would not be so quick to say the 90 is still there, I agree its rotated backwards but the amount of clearence from the front wheel to leading edge of fairing seems to have greatly increased based on comparing the 2 shots (GP0 to Phoenix). Its tough without true sideviews though.

    Fingers crossed this thing makes some headway, GP needs this bike getting into the thick of it

  11. Glenn Plummer says:

    So does this mean my new Ducati Sport Bike will be a genuine replica of the failed GP11? Maybe it’s time to consider the Aprilia Factory. I sure don’t want a trackday tool with zero feedback at every corner. That could get real exspensive real fast.

  12. mark says:

    I don’t think the CF monocoque frame of the GP11 had anything to do with the lack of front end feel, but rather the lack of weight on the front tire, preventing the tire from heating up enough to perform optimally.
    If the new 1199 was good enough to impress Troy Baylis, it’ll be good enough for you.

  13. Glenn Plummer says:

    So true Mark. And my 10/10th’s is really like Troy putting around the track.