Q&A: Yukio Kagayama Talks About the Upcoming Suzuka 8-Hour with Kevin Schwantz & Noriyuki Haga

In case you missed the story last week, Kevin Schwantz is preparing to race in this year’s Suzuka 8-Hour endurance race. For the race, Schwantz will be riding on a team formed by Yukio Kagayama, who in addition to having raced in the MotoGP, World Superbike, and British Superbike Championships, is also a previous Suzuka 8-Hour winner with the Suzuki Endurance Race Team (also joining the three-rider team Noriyuki “Nitro” Haga). Releasing a Q&A about his team’s Suzuka 8-Hour entry, Kagayama-san walks us through how the team came together, what equipment the riders will use, and his outlook on the team’s competitiveness.

KTM RC4 Concept by Luca Bar Design

A single-cylinder hooligan-maker, the KTM 690 Duke is 330 lbs (curbside without fuel) and 67hp of two-wheeled fun, and we hope that the Austrians bring the KTM 690 Duke R our way as well. While we are on the topic of things missing from KTM’s American line-up, a decent supersport is painfully obvious, yet we can’t see the folks at KTM following the paths of other brands. That’s where our friend Luca Bar comes to mind with his latest concept: the KTM RC4. Using the KTM 690 Duke platform and its LC4 engine, Bar has designed a super-single full-fairing sport bike that takes the Austrian company’s “Ready to Race” DNA and applies it to an idea that is not all that disimilar to the Ducati Supermono.

Q&A: Claudio Domenicali Talks Frameless Chassis, Sacred Cows, & The Future for Ducati

When I sat down with Claudio Domenicali at the Ducati 1199 Panigale R launch, the now-CEO of Ducati Motor Holding was still just the General Manager of the Italian motorcycle company. Four weeks after our interview though, Gabriele del Torchio would leave Ducati for Alitalia; and Domenicali, a 21-year veteran of both the racing and production departments of Ducati, would take his place at the top of Italy’s most prestigious motorcycle brand. After reading our interview from Austin, Texas after the jump, I think you will agree too.

Is Yamaha Using A Seamless Gearbox? The Data Says No

That Yamaha is working on a seamless gearbox is no secret, with Yamaha’s test riders currently racking up the kilometers around tracks in Japan. Recently, however, Spanish magazine SoloMoto published an article suggesting that Yamaha has already been using its new seamless gearbox since the beginning of the season. My own enquiries to check whether Yamaha was using a seamless gearbox or not always received the same answer: no, Yamaha is not using the seamless gearbox. To test this denial, I went out to the side of the track on Friday morning at Jerez to record the bikes as they went by.

OCC Coming Back to TV? — Universe Collapses in on Self

After a very public father/son break-up between Paul Teutul Sr. and Paul Teutul Jr., a steroid-ring scandal involving Paul Sr., and finally a bankruptcy proceeding, it appears that Orange County Choppers is the impossible to kill multi-headed hydra of doom that we all knew it was, as the custom chopper shop is once again headed to the small screen and recruiting some talent, on and off the show. Looking for “someone who will work alongside Paul Senior, running the shop and helping build some of the best custom motorcycles in the world,” OCC says it will be back on television with a new show later this month. Please for the love of god, will someone give this man the attention he craves so dearly??! Or, just shoot us in the face.

Alstare Superbike Concept by Team Alstare

We love us some concept bikes here at Asphalt & Rubber, and we have featured more than a few pieces of stunning design and imagination on our pages. Though, we can’t remember the last time one of these works of art were brought to us by a legitimate racing team, but that is what we have here with the Team Alstare Superbike Concept. A nod to the former Suzuki team’s return to the World Superbike Championship as the Ducati factory squad with Carlos Checa and Ayrton Badovini, Alstare has enlisted the help of designer Serge Rusak of Rusak Kreaktive Designworks to ink the shape of its futuristic Superbike concept, while Tryptik Studios handled the 3D modeling prowess.

Transcript: The Gay Question at Jerez

If you didn’t watch Thursday’s pre-event press conference for MotoGP at Jerez, it is worth a viewing right to the end (assuming you have a MotoGP.com account). Building off the news about the NBA’s Jason Collins coming out as gay in a self-written feature in Sport Illustrated, my good colleague David Emmett had the courage to inquire about the culture and acceptance of the MotoGP paddock for homosexual riders. For the sake of accuracy, after the jump is a full transcript of David’s question, as put to riders Cal Crutchlow, Jorge Lorenzo, Marc Marquez, Andrea Dovizioso, Stefan Bradl, and Scott Redding, as well as those riders’ responses to David’s inquiry.

2014 Suzuki GSV-R Spotted Again

News that Suzuki plans on returning to the MotoGP Championship in 2014 should be old information for dedicated Asphalt & Rubber readers, and the Japanese company’s inline-four race bike was already spotted doing test laps last year by the eager eyes at Cycle World. Well the American print-mag has another set of eyebrow-raising high-quality photos of the 2014 Suzuki GSV-R to mull over from the Motegi race track, along with some technical insights provided by the venerable Kevin Cameron.

BMW F800GS Adventure – Germany’s Middleweight ADV

A surprise addition to BMW Motorrad’s 2013 model line-up, zie Germans have announced a new middleweight adventure-tourer, the 2013 BMW F800GS Adventure. Like its larger predecessor, the BMW F800GS Adventure is a more travel-ready and off-road capable build of the recently updated BMW F800GS motorcycle. Featuring a larger windscreen, panniers, and a bigger fuel tank capacity (2.1 gallons larger, for a total of 6.3 gallons of fuel), the BMW F800GS Adventure keeps the same 85 hp, liquid-cooled, 798cc, parallel-twin engine found on the F800GS, as well as the same chassis configuration. Pricing in the US will be $13,550 for the base model BWM F800GS Adventure.

Kevin Schwantz Returns to Motorcycle Racing – Enters the Suzuka 8-Hours with Team Kagayama

Former 500cc World Champion Kevin Schwantz has certainly been in the news a bit these past few months, mostly for his involvement and falling out with the Circuit of the Americas and the Americas GP, but also more recently for his comments regarding Dani Pedrosa — we also sat down with Mr. Schwantz in Austin, and the Texan gave us some sobering insight into the future of American road racing. As if all that wasn’t enough, Schwantz is making a return to two-wheeled racing, and has entered the prestigious Suzuka 8-Hours endurance race with Team Kagayama racing alongside Noriyuki Haga and team owner Yukio Kagayama.

Ride Review: Honda Dual-Clutch Transmission (DCT)

07/22/2010 @ 6:05 am, by Tim Hoefer10 COMMENTS

Ride Review: Honda Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT) Honda VFR1200F dual clutch transmission dct 8 560x373

Perhaps bigger news than the bike itself is the Honda VFR1200F’s much-anticipated dual-clutch transmission (DCT) model. What Honda has developed for the sport bike world is an automatic shifting technology to enhance the rider’s experience. Automatic transmissions are a rare breed in motorcycling, and we have no doubt that some of you out there may be asking: Isn’t part of being on the road and on the bike, about feeling personal freedom? Or mastering your machine with skill and control? As kids in high school didn’t we make fun of our friend that couldn’t drive a stick? Is DCT an upgrade or a substitution? Well folks, that was the other reason Asphalt & Rubber got to test ride the new VFR1200F, and we put the DCT through its paces.

At first glance, the noticeable differences between the DCT and the standard manual transmission are of course the absence of a clutch lever and gearshift toe control. Unnecessary for our purposes, they have now become phantom controls that, in the beginning, you are constantly trying to reach for, but to no avail. An oddity for motorcyclists, the DCT also has the addition of a parking brake, which is to hold the bike in position when turned off.

DCT is not your typical automatic transmission; there is no torque converter. Instead what you are left with is a two clutch, two input shaft design, which is electronically controlled to give you seamless quick shifts just like a racecar. The first clutch engages gears 1-3-5 and the second clutch is for gears 2-4-6, this allows the bike to engage one clutch while disengaging the other when shifting gears. The experience for the rider is almost a complete absence of lurching while shifting, which can only be experienced by actually riding the DCT equipped VFR1200F.

Ride Review: Honda Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT) Honda VFR1200F dual clutch transmission dct 1 560x373There are three shifting styles that exist on the new VFR, “D” or ”Drive” mode, which is intended for regular operation and maximizes your fuel economy by shifting early and downshifting less. “S” mode is the “Sport” mode, no this does not deploy a fancy spoiler or change the exhaust note, or even stiffen the suspension; rather it lets the revs reach a little higher and is more prone to engine braking and downshifting in an effort to keep the bike’s momentum up for more spirited riding. Lastly is the “M” mode, or the “Why didn’t I just buy a Manual” mode. There is in-fact a slight difference from “M” mode and a truly manual transmission: in “M” mode the VFR1200F will still downshift into first gear if you come to a complete stop, or it will downshift the bike if stalling is eminent. In addition to these drive modes, you can place the new VFR in “N” or neutral, which is best used as a safety precaution if no one is on the bike while its running. We await the inevitable YouTube videos that will come from riders who forget this.

When first mounting the Honda VFR1200F and turning the bike on you have to put the bike in “D” to get going, which seems scary at first. Your mind is telling you the bike is going to lurch when you shift into “D”, and thus it tells you that you need a death grip on the brake. This is not the case though; once you have selected “D”, the bike still sits at the ready, waiting for you to turn you brain off and just ride the bike. In drive, the bike wants to shift up all the time and if your not use to it, it does become annoying in traffic.

Most of the riders including myself switched to “Sport” in traffic just to hold the revs longer, as we would on a normal motorcycle. The “D” experience is very clunky from stoplight to stoplight. The transmission made several questionable noises trying to shift to soon and then back down that we can only assume are normal, but not confidence inspiring.

Ride Review: Honda Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT) Honda VFR1200F dual clutch transmission dct 9 560x373Once out on the road, the DCT shifts almost seem transparently…when you’re not gunning the engine. It is amazing how quiet and easy the bike is to get around the inner city of Santa Barbara. Riding the VFR you constantly have to remind yourself that you are riding a 1237cc motorcycle and not a scooter; because without having to commit your mind to shifting, the VFR is a snap to ride. Should you want to manually operate the shifting, it’s as easy as going to the left-side handlebar controls where the shift up is a quick finger pull and shift down is a thumb press. Don’t be surprised if you hit the horn by accident the first couple times. To re-engage into an automatic mode it’s a quick right hand finger pull.

For little stints we were able to try the VFR in ”Sport” mode versus ”Manual” mode at a more aggressive pace. This was actually a pleasurable experience, and the bike becomes predictable in its automatic shifting. And as far as we could tell, we never hit too low a gear for a mid-corner scare. In fact the bike would shift in mid-corner at a lean and due to the fact the bike shifts so smoothly and quickly we barely even noticed. You experience a ”did that just happen?” moment, knowing fully that you would have thought twice about doing that on a manual transmission without proper clutch control.

Gunning the bike in drive is a lackluster event, it almost seems that the VFR chooses whether or not to shift down depending on if the machine felt like it or not. This leaves you hoping that whatever you are trying to get around the VFR can torque down appropriately for. When in “Sport” mode the bike would readily down shift gear by gear until you were satisfied or redlining to speed; much more how the typical rider would like it. And as you would imagine in “Manual” mode it shifts quickly to your demands…in a split second no less. We believe that most people would just leave the VFR in “Sport” mode, and every once in awhile manage a downshift for extra engine braking, or for pure amusement in almost all riding situations.

Ride Review: Honda Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT) Honda VFR1200F dual clutch transmission dct 12 560x373Bang for the buck, is the DCT worth the extra $1500? The DCT had a wow factor as we rode it, both in the technological feat and we didn’t feel like anything was taken away from our riding enjoyment. We began thinking of how would this option be best used.

The dual-clutch transmission would definitely be a great way for handicapped riders who want to be on the road, but are tired of modifying bikes to fit their lifestyles. DCT also gives the ability for riders who don’t want to deal with clutch control but still want to ride a real motorcycle in a spirited and controlled manner, which as anyone who has sat in L.A. traffic will tell you, stop-and-go traffic on a manual transmission is a slow death by hand fatigue. At $1500 the option seems like a value it if these are your criteria.

Should the DCT become a cross-platform option is another interesting dynamic, especially in performance-oriented machines. Due to the current weight DCT adds to the bike you would be essentially adding some pounds to the motorcycle in exchange for a feature that could instead be achieved with a quick shift kit. Plus, with so many riders having a different style of shift points and engine-braking needs, the DCT would have to have a dynamic number of options to run a track in any mode other than “Manual”.

Yet again it’s a pragmatic decision: would A&R rather throw its leg around the DCT or the manual VFR1200F permanently? To us it’s not the toughest call, while we saw the benefits of the DCT and thoroughly enjoyed riding it; we still come back to the purity of riding a manual. We see the DCT as more of a novelty, an option for those who want to try a new technology. Those who don’t want to use the clutch. At A&R we don’t’ see the benefit of having the DCT for us yet. That doesn’t mean at some point we might gripe that we didn’t go for DCT option, or succumb to the fact that we’ll have to adapt because it is a future of motorcycling, but that day isn’t today for us.

Comment:

  1. Jim says:

    I’d save the $1500 to fund a vacation. Given the operator involvement that riding a MC requires, the lack of a clutch and shifter doesn’t simplify the experience a great deal and IMO using the clutch and shifting are the simplest inputs required of the rider.

    DCT’s will come to dominate race bikes and the accompanying race replicas, simply because the computer and solenoid will execute the shift much faster than the rider.

  2. Sloan says:

    My personal reliable source says the DCT will be in the 2012 Gold Wing to be released mid/early 2011. They didn’t say if it would be an option or standard equipment. There will be no official 2012 ‘Wing and will rely on 2010 models to be in stock (and hope there’s enough)

    And I rode the DCT VFR and have to agree with you on all points. It was street riding only, mainly in town but with a few spirited corners thrown in. From a stoplight, D mode has you in 5th gear before you cross the intersection and S mode can sometimes hold a lower gear too long when riding in traffic. But like you mentioned, it’s very easy to tap the shift button to either step up or step down a gear, then fan the auto/manual switch to go back to the automatic mode you had previously. One other helpful hint for anybody doing a test ride on the DCT bike… if you are sitting at a red light with it in gear, don’t blip the throttle like so many of us like to do with a clutch pulled in because the bike will try to take you into the intersection! Fortunately I was warned of this before I rode it! BTW, I’m not giving up my 2006 VFR for this one!

  3. Sloan says:

    Minor correction…there will be no official 2011 ‘Wing.

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  7. Interesting tech, it will become the norm. I have not ridden the VFR of either persuasion but one area that does concern me with the DCT is doing a very tight U turn, I normally fan the clutch and drag the rear brake a bit for stability. With the VFR120o, both versions will operate front pucks as well which I despise (linked brakes) and I wonder about a real tight manouvres vs a DCT, if in 1st and super slow the rider has a choice of drive or neutral, not so sure about all that.

  8. Sloan says:

    I can answer that one for Derek. Before I took a VFR 1200 out on the road I did some parking lot drills including u-turns and tight circles. Basically I just applied some rear brake with a little throttle and it felt just like working a clutch in the friction zone but much easier. Within 2 or 3 circles I was able to let the steering to go full lock left or right and keep up the rotation. The electronics seem to do the work you would normally do with the clutch lever and provided the correct amount of friction.

  9. Skipper says:

    Honda will never sell this concept to the American public. Maybe it would be nice on a scooter or the Lead Wing but on a sport bike – get real – who in the hell wants an automatic type transmission on a sport bike or sport touring bike. This whole VFR1200 thing is a total nightmare. This bike is just plain overweight and overpriced and it has the ugliest muffler on any motorcycle to date. Maybe Honda is considering buying out Harley Davidson so they are practicing selling overweight and over priced motorcycles.

  10. Pat says:

    I’m in my 3rd year of riding and I’m just starting to become noob mechanic. Coming from a very high tech background, I absolutely hated the whole concept of my Ninja 250… Carbs in 2009… But now I’m starting to have a huge appreciation for how easy it is to fix/replace anything on the bike. With this in mind, I have some serious brain conflict over this monster bike. I love the technology, but I fear the ability to do anything on it.

    I guess the late 80′s automotive electronics conflict is coming to bikes…

    On a side note, I also have a 2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback GTS with electronic everything, including a CVT transmission. Maybe I’ll keep the bike stuff mechanical and the car stuff high tech :)