2013 Motus MST – 165hp, $30,975, Fall Production

03/16/2012 @ 11:07 am, by Jensen Beeler65 COMMENTS

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Officially debuted last night to the masses of the Daytona Bike Week, the 2013 Motus MST broke cover in its production trim (the 2013 Motus MST-R is shown above), along with details about the bike’s final specs, pricing, and availability. As we reported earlier, the Motus MST will come without its originally planned gasoline direct injection (GDI), with the Motus team instead opting for direct port injection.

With the Motus MST priced at $30,975 and the Motus MST-R getting a price tag of $36,975, our earlier reports of a $30,000 price tag appear to be spot on as well. A “comfortable sportbike” as the American company is calling it, the Motus MST will initially be available at seven premium dealerships nationwide, though sadly none of them are west of the Rockies.

Expected to start production in the Fall of this year, Motus has also finalized the technical specification of the MST & MST-R. With the base model Motus MST getting 165hp out of its 1,650cc KMV4 motor, the Motus MST-R brings the grunt with 185hp on tap. Carrying with it a price tag that is $6,000 more expensive than the base model, the 2013 Motus MST-R also packs Öhlins R&T NIX forks, an Öhlins TTX rear shock, Brembo M4 monoblock brake calipers, and forged OZ aluminum wheels with wave rotors.

Looking at the list of dealers listed for the initial launch of the MST & MST-R, Motus owners will be serviced by some of the most top-notch dealers in the country, but with there is an obvious gap in coverage with no west coast dealers listed by Motus. With AF1 in Austin, TX the furthest west dealership for Motus, riders from California to Colorado are going to have a hard time picking up one of these exclusive American motorcycles.

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2013 Motus MST Standard Equipment:

  • V4 Baby Block, 1650cc liquid cooled, 165 horsepower
  • 6-Speed, dual-overdrive
  • Electronic fuel injection
  • Electronic throttle control
  • 720w alternator
  • Öhlins R&T adjustable front suspension
  • Progressive mono-shock rear suspension with remote preload adjuster
  • Brembo calipers
  • Aluminum wheels with wave rotors
  • Powerlet port
  • Michelin tires
  • Removable side cases by Givi
  • Premium Sargent seat
  • 20,000 mile XW-ring chain by RK
  • Hybrid rear sprocket with lifetime warranty
  • Centerstand

2013 Motus MST Optional Equipment:

  • 30 liter top case by Givi
  • Adjustable windscreen
  • Adjustable handlebars
  • Dual rear Powerlet port
  • Heated seat
  • Heated grips
  • Premium low seat by Sargent
  • Rear storage rack
  • Touring windscreen

2013 Motus MST Color Options:

  • Speed Silver Metallic
  • Flame Red Metallic

2013 Motus MST-R Standard Equipment:

  • V4R Baby Block, 1650cc liquid cooled, 185 horsepower
  • 6-Speed, dual-overdrive
  • Electronic fuel injection
  • Electronic throttle control
  • 720w alternator
  • Öhlins R&T NIX adjustable front suspension
  • Öhlins TTX mono-shock rear suspension with remote preload adjuster
  • Brembo M4 monoblock calipers
  • Forged OZ aluminum wheels with wave rotors
  • 3 Powerlet ports
  • Michelin tires
  • Removable side cases by Givi
  • Premium Sargent seat
  • 20,000 mile XW-ring chain by RK
  • Hybrid rear sprocket with lifetime warranty
  • Centerstand

2013 Motus MST-R Optional Equipment:

  • 30 liter top case by Givi
  • Adjustable windscreen
  • Adjustable handlebars
  • BST carbon fiber wheels
  • Heated seat
  • Heated grips
  • Premium low seat by Sargent
  • Rear storage rack
  • Touring windscreen

2013 Motus MST-R Color Options

  • Strong White
  • Carbon Black

Source: Motus Motorcycles

Comment:

  1. keet says:

    i’m sorry, but at $31k – $36k you better be better than your competition, and quite frankly, its not! there is NOTHING this bike does better than bikes half its price. i hate to be a hater but that price is rediculous, especially in this economic climate.

  2. Surj says:

    Sweet Jesus, that’s sexy. I sat on one at Alice’s last year, and thought it felt really good. I wish them the best – super nice guys, super cool bike.

  3. Damo says:

    I can attest to the quality and customer service at AF1 in Austin. I exclusively deal with them for all my OEM aprilia parts. Top notch, knowledgeable staff.

    Outrageous price aside, I imagine the MST-R could probably put down some respectable lap time with that kinda of power/weight ratio.

    I’d like to get a crate version of that engine and slap it in an old TR-6 roadster.

  4. John says:

    @keet

    What competition? I am disappointed myself, as I was hoping to see a base price in the mid-20′s, and whether it is worth the steep price is debatable. But there is literally nothing on the market that this can be compared to. The closest think I can find is maybe the BMW K1300S HP, which while much more affordable retailing just over $20k, is outclassed by the Motus in just about any aspect. But the Motus is lighter, more powerful, better suspension and looks to be more comfortable as well.

    While it certainly is a shame it will be so expensive, I cannot wait to ride the MST-R. 185HP and 120+ ft lbs of torque not even half-way through the rev range? This thing is going to flat out *snort* all the way through 6th gear. I’d love to see some rear-wheel dyno charts for the MST-R. I wonder if the torque curve is just as flat, or if they got that power with a higher-revving cam.

  5. Geoff says:

    For that kind of money it’ll need to come with a large amount of the crack you’d need to be smoking to consider paying that price in the first place. I predict total sales of under 100 before they collapse.

  6. keet says:

    @John
    Competition?? …almost eveyone makes something comparable to this! Honda VFR, Yanaha FJR, KAwasaki Concours, BMW, hell, i’d almost put the Ducati Multistrada in the same catagory.

    And the engine, again, sorry, 165hp out of a 1600cc V4, still, not impressive. Ducati can get almost 200hp out of a 1200cc V-twin, also, Aprilia can get almost 200hp out of a 1000cc V-4.

  7. chris says:

    same KTM headlight as the prototype… lazy… zzzzz

  8. Jake says:

    A startup company manufacturing its own product will never enjoy the same economies of scale as a large and well-established global corporation. So give over already with all the price-point comparisons to Honda, Yamaha, BMW, et al. There are plenty of people out there who will be able to afford this bike, if they want to. That will depend on many factors, but one of them is whether or not they see value in supporting a small American business. I wish them nothing but success.

  9. keet says:

    @Jake,
    you’re right, but ask MV how producing over priced motorcycles is working out for them? I hope new businesses succeed as well, as long as they put out a great product and are economically viable, they shouldn’t get a free pass just because they are ‘merican. The Motus might be a great bike, but at $31k+ they’re really backing themselves into a corner, and like i said, at that price they better be better than the competion, and unfortunately, that doesnt look to be the case.

  10. I won’t disagree with anything being said about price on the MST, but I really should do an article about the costs of building a motorcycle in low volume. It’s actually impressive that this thing doesn’t cost $40k like the EBR 1190RS.

  11. keet says:

    yes Jensen, please do! its sad, we’ve really backed ourselves into a corner in this country with regards to low-cost manufacturing.

  12. That’s not necessarily true, though for companies like Motus, the bigger issue is the cost of making 100 of something are much great per unit than the cost of making 10,000 of something, which is much greater per unit than 100,000 of something…

    If you’re making a low-volume motorcycle, it’s going to cost $40,000. That’s just the beast of the game.

  13. Jake says:

    I wonder if an American motorcycle startup could be successful by designing a bike, sourcing nearly all the components for their bike(s) from inexpensive foreign suppliers (probably in Asia), doing partial or final assembly in the US, then selling it at low cost. It seems to work in the electronics industry, Vizio comes to mind.

  14. John says:

    @keet

    Peak HP isn’t everything. The whole point of going with a SBC vee architecture is not peak power but the very wide, flat power delivery and power density of the overall package. Who cares if it doesn’t make 150 HP/liter? The motor is the same size and weight of much lower-displacement motors. The VFR1200, FJR, Concours, etc, are all overweight, torque-less buzzbombs compared to the MST.

    I don’t understand how anyone can be unimpressed by this bike from an engineering standpoint. The motor, especially in MST-R trim, is pretty nuts. 185 peak HP and 120+ ft lbs of torque at ONLY 4000 rpm. And something like 90% of that peak torque should be available at only 2000 RPM. 2000! So you’re getting over 100 ft lbs of torque using only 25% of your available revs… in a package that weighs close a 1000 cc I-4.

    If you throw the cost issue out the window and line up the MST-R against production bike out there, do a 6th gear roll-on at 75 MPH, and I think it’ll be clear just how special this bike is (or at least could be).

  15. keet says:

    John,
    you call those bikes overweight but i fail to see a wet weight given anywhere for the Motus? John, do you work for Motus?

  16. keet says:

    …ACTUAL wet weight!

  17. ducman1198 says:

    That is an outrageous price for a unproven start-up machine. I have to agree with some of the other posters, when you can get the same performance or so much more for a lot less! The ducati multistrada, comes to mind and it will easily out perform this over priced tourer. The BMW K series or even a hyabusa with saddle bags & luggage rack would do nicely. Not to mention for 30k you could buy 2 of them lol.

    Hell I would put bags and a luggage on a vmax and still come out cheaper and smoke that 1600cc turd lol!!!

    I wish them well but this bike gives no reasons to drop that kind on money for it! Especially in this economy.

    It better come with an awful big bag of crack to drop that kind of money!

    Its going to be a flop.

  18. dudster says:

    I would really want to know who are people they targeting, in other words who is their target market?
    A no name company starts selling bikes in a price bracket like this….. it is better be good!
    Otherwise, another failed motorcycle startup

    DM

  19. Dean says:

    Looks like a great bike, but the price is simply too high – even for the high-end market.

  20. Keet says:

    It’s too bad, I was hoping for more. Maybe if Tom Cruise and Jay the chin buy enough of them then Motus can make something the rest of us can afford…?

  21. jackie says:

    I loooooove the look of the engine. Moto Guzzish x 2.

    But what doesn’t look plain pedestrian (or borrowed as one poster pointed out) about the rest of the bike’s design, is down right agricultural.

    Someone will certainly spend the dosh out there, and I hope enough someones to get this company flying.
    But it doesn’t stir me like say a Bimota or the Vyrus, which just grabs my eyes at every turn, for the money.

    This one almost asks me to forgive it it’s rough castings and unfinished bits, just to hear its motor. And that’s a pretty hard sell for that price.

  22. John says:

    keet,

    I do not work for Motus (though I did send them my resume a while back, haha!), but I will admit I am a huge fan of the bike and I am definitely “rooting for it.” A lot of my opinions also may have be shaped by the extensive time I spent chatting with the folks at the Motus booth at the DC Progressive IMS in January, so a lot of that may be sales pitch on their part.

    As far as the weight goes, their website currently quotes a 530 lb wet weight:

    http://motusmotorcycles.com/mst-01.html

    Talking to the folks at their booth, I was told, if I recall correctly, “just over 500 lbs, full wet and dressed with hard bags.” And seeing it in person, I’d believe it. It is visibly smaller, and a much shorter wheelbase than the sport-tourers many continue to compare it to. The emphasis is definitely on the “sport” side of things; It really is much more of a “comfortable sportbike” than a sport-tourer.

  23. ducman1198 says:

    If you really want some serious exotic muscle that you can possibly afford, get a German Horex 1200 and put some bags and luggage rack on it and you’ll still come out cheaper!

    They are INSANE to think their going to be successful at 30k+ per unit!

  24. keet says:

    YES, the Horex, now thats drool-worthy!

  25. RGR says:

    These bastiges have lost their freakin’ minds. I can’t believe there’s actually an “option” list with a base price of over $30k. They should be ashamed of themselves. I’ll keep my VFR1200 thank you very much.

  26. Bill says:

    For $31,000 it should have 265 HP. You could buy a Kawi Concours 1400cc, have it turbo’d for less than the cost of this standard model, and have way more power.

  27. Chris says:

    For the price of one of these beauties you could buy a VFR1200 for sport touring AND an RSV4R for track days! 2 V4′s for the price of one, literally!

  28. Rexr says:

    I agree with most of u……but like Ducati they bring a top of the range bike out and a couple months later bring out a more basic version, are Motus going to be doing that……if not then I can’t see many being sold at that price….

  29. AndrewF says:

    Putting that synonym of quality that is Two Bros on a 30k bike is especially nice touch :) They could’ve at least splash out on Akras for the base model now they no longer have the expense of GDI to deal with…

  30. SPEKTRE76 says:

    Hmm, $30K + in our current economy, for a bike that does nothing better than a Multistrada that is $15k less and more advanced than this bike is, not worth it to me.

    I applaud their effort and I love the fact that it is a small block V-4 but the bike also looks terribly dated in styling. It is American made which (last I checked) I give them kudos for.

    One think I noticed is that they are offering machined OZ wheels for the ‘R’ however in the picture, BST carbon wheels are shown?

  31. Classy bike. I definitely like it. I also think they’re smart to market this as a comfortable sport bike. And offering crate engines? Also a win. I bet you’ll find it in all sorts of places, such as purpose-built trackday cars and the like. Smart way of keeping revenue flowing.

    As for the comments of the styling being “dated”. Eh? What, we need to have EVERYTHING looking like a bloody Transformer for it to be modern? Good god, try looking at an Eagle Speedster to witness how beautiful, timeless designs need not be/shouldn’t be angular. This bike might not achieve “achingly beautiful” in my eyes, but it’s definitely a looker.

  32. forre says:

    at 3o,ooo+ this bike came in way over priced, especially considering most of its competition is at half that price. i appreciate what these guys did but for that price you can get the k1600gtl and still have enough for a bike to beat on during the week.

  33. Keith says:

    hmmph my predictions are true. Those that don’t like it come up with all sorts of reasons to not like it. I like it and price be damned. For my money it’s a dang sight better than any current BMW and their dodgy reliablity. More personality than any soulless Honda (and me a goldwing rider). A better bike all around I say.

  34. JasonB says:

    Extremely disappointing. It’s all been said so no need to repeat every valid point already laid out above. They should have stuck to the same crap everyone else builds in this country, the assless chaps crowd would have been a much better target market at that price point. My wait for a great American motorcycle continues.

  35. logan says:

    This bike is nice. NOT $31K nice.

  36. Chrome says:

    Sold. I’ll take two.

  37. AC says:

    I’ll echo what’s already been said: far too expensive. The competition for this bike is already out there, proven, and costs less. This either needed to match their pricing or blow them away in some other capacity. Well, I guess it did that with the price…

  38. Keith says:

    Agree; price is too high for an initial offering; although likely a limited # of units. I too was hoping for about 1/2 for the starting price. I’m interested in a naked variant…

  39. Gritboy says:

    Sweet Jesus, that’s Bimota territory in pricing. For that price, I’ll buy Italian.

  40. MikeD says:

    I don’t think the price is the problem.

    But rather the aspect(look) and the level of finish on the end product.
    Had this thing look like the mentioned K1600GT, C14, VFR1200…u know, Sleek yet Fast Looking even standing still, MODERN LOOKING…not like a powerful, nice sounding, clad in fancy bits fast LUMP.
    Yes, she’s light, powerful, got fancy bits and a beauty to some of us…but what about if u want to appeal to more people than the selected blind filthy rich that would hand over the flow ?
    I realize this is not for the masses but if u want to grow u’ll need to sell to the “the masses”.
    Sadly, most of us riders are very VISUAL and (spoiled ?)…this bike might be the greatest thing on 2 wheels since the begining of times…but if it doesn’t go thru the eyes it will be hard to make go thru your wallet…again, for the regular hard working individual that values his hard earned $$$.
    For must of us bikes are toys, toys should be really fun and NICE to look at STANDING or MOVING(this goes specially to those of us that say u can’t see the bike while riding it) or else it’ll get spider webs all over it on the show room…specially at such price points.

    Priorities i guess.

    Put up with some aditional “pounds”, “more features for less money?”, known names…or go lighter, more xpensive and more Spartan with the up and coming stranger.

  41. JB says:

    I saw it, sat on it, and heard it today in Daytona. I gotta tell ya, I think it is the sexiest bike that has come out in years. The bikes have serious swagger and the work that has gone into them is obvious. In person, more than in the pix that came out, they oooze character and sound wicked. Want, want, want.

    The Motus crew who, incidentally, brought much hotter girls than the Ducati girls nearby, were very direct about every question answered. I heard at least two guys discussing that they had placed reservations and it looked like the head Motus dudes were talking several dealers that had come in to meet them.

    I am not sure why everybody is whining about the price. If you can’t afford it, move on! No reason to hate. Motus is a small company trying like hell to launch a new brand and I think the more cool bikes on the road, the better. Here at Daytona, there are thousands of guys and girls riding around on $30k, $40k, $50k bikes and you don’t even turn your head to notice.

    Some guys drive Kias, some Hondas, some Chevys, some Cadillacs, some Acuras, some Rolls Royces, some Land Rovers, some BMWs, some Mercedes, some Ferraris, some Jaguars, some Buggattis. It is a big world and there are plenty of guys looking for something unique, interesting, and bad ass and Motus has just that. Hell, I saw at least 50 Boss Hoss’s, hundreds of $35k+ trikes, and more fully customized Hayabusas, choppers, Harley’s than I could ever count.

    If you can’t afford or justify a Motus in your budget, no worries! I for one think they are on the right path and, from what I saw today, think the demand will easily surpass the supply.

    Go Motus!

  42. Greg W says:

    Saw it in Daytona today. Wow. Heard it run. WOW. Sat on it. WOOOOOW!

    It’ll be worth ever penny and I bet they will be sold out for 2013 before they build the first one. One of the spokesmodels they brought (insanely hot, btw) mentioned that Motus will be taking a small fleet of bikes around to all the dealers for private demo rides for those that have reservations, then to others on the list.

    I’ll be calling my dealer Moto Corse this week to get on that list….

  43. Bruce says:

    @JB

    Well said.

  44. MikeD says:

    Poppy Corn and Reclining Chair ready…now just seat, wait and see…sink or swim…do or die…(^_^)

  45. Skadamo says:

    They should have worked harder to make us fall in love with the story behind this beast. I really hope people show up with the cash.

  46. I think the pricing is on target given the kind of numbers they can expect to move (being a small start-up manufacturer). I think the engine has a really aggressive look. I really wish them all the best. The world can always use another top-drawer manufacturer.

  47. Damo says:

    @Trane

    I would go as far to say the LAST thing the world needs is another top-drawer manufacturer. The world need better more affordable things, not gimmicky less affordable things.

    I am also curious how much petrol this thing laps up.

  48. kevin says:

    Wow, a lot of hate for a company that’s bringing a new, premium, U.S. built performance motorcycle to market.

    I kinda understand the comparisons with other brands. After all, they all have two wheels and an engine, but Motus is a new company using a new engine. R&D can be an expensive endeavor, especially for a new startup that won’t have the distribution network or economies of scale of its competitors.

    Time will tell whether the price is on point but expecting pricing similar to the big 4 is setting yourself up for disappointment.

    But let me ask you this. How much is a Harley CVO? We know some of the issues the Motus team faced (and still faces). What’s Harley’s excuse for pricing CVO bikes in “this economy”.

    And what’s with all the “in this economy” statements. Believe it or not, people are making money in THIS economy. Here’s a quick look at 2011 U.S. performance car sales:

    Porche Boxster 1773
    Porsche Cayman 1377
    Audi R8 1145
    Chevrolet Corvette 13,164
    Jaguar XK 1738
    MB SLS AMG 722
    Nissan GTR 1294
    Porsche 911 6016

    If the bike is too rich for your wallet walk away. I’d love to have an Aventador. In fact, I’d even “settle” for a Gallardo or a 458 Italia. I can’t afford them so I’m thinking of ways to fatten my wallet. Complaining about the price won’t accomplish anything constructive.

    To me, the biggest news is no distributors in California. I don’t have sales numbers in front of me but I’d hazard a guess that like cars, California is the biggest motorcycle consumer in the United States. If Motus wants their best chance of success, California and the rest of the west needs to be in play.

  49. Keith says:

    those who don’t like it are obviously uninformed whiney little brats who mortagaged the house and the childrens kidneys to buy the Kl1600 lardbarge or maybe they bought the BloatWinge. Maybe they sold their parents gold tooth to get that lardbarge underperforming poorly built Astroglide.

    meh, the Motus IS a better bike and it’s a dang sight better looking than anything coming out of europe…including the Horex.

  50. @Damo: Maybe we’re looking at different bikes. I don’t see any gimmicks here, just what appears to be solid engineering and, certainly with that powertrain, innovation. A bike that is high on both performance AND comfort is a huge win, IMO. The more I look at the MST, the more I want one.

    I’ve always liked sport tourers as they’re (for me) the ultimate bikes in practical rideablility. You can whip ‘em through the twisties with a big grin on your face, plus you can rack up the miles on the interstates loaded with luggage. Moreover, when I last was living in Canada, my bike was my primary means of transport (yes, I had a decent, running car). I’m all about getting the best fitting bike for my budget. And I think that choice is always a good thing.

    In “this economy”, as with any other, people put there money where it feels best.

  51. MikeD says:

    @Keith:

    U truly are the definition of a Bigot…i guess u couldn’t come up with a logic counter argument and had to resort to name calling ? Magnificent…(^_^)

  52. Keith says:

    Bigot MOI? Non, I just don’t like whiney punks who put down the motorcycle not the dick(ette) in the saddle. ;^) I’m tired of the OB chair motorcycles (cruisers) Unless I’m at a track the “monkey humping a grape” look makes no sense and I have never been comfortable on barcaloungers.

    p.s. someone have a spare $30K? pappa needs a toy to park next to the ninjette.

  53. Chrome says:

    Interesting to see the difference between comments here vs over at The Knee Slider. Much more of a builder crowd over there an they (myself included), love it. High price? Yep, but this bike is speaking to a lot of people, and my guess it people who could scratch build new body-work if they really put their mind to it.

  54. JoeD says:

    At this level, price is not a factor. 30 years ago, all I could afford was cheap Asian. After some ladder climbing, I’ve been able to buy into the Exclusive Club. That’s Life. Probably just as well because I do not believe the young/new rider would appreciate the exclusivity. Who buys Hayabusa models; what is that demographic? Same with GSXR, CBR, FZR. Dime a dozen and worth zilch when Next Year is introduced. As for the HP, engines do not make it. It is used as a marketing tool. Mine is bigger than yours syndrome. With a large displacement, the stroke limits rpm which is used to CALCULATE horsepower. That 1600cc Big Twin with 100+ lb/ft redlines at 5000 rpm and only “makes” 65 hp. That is why HD doesn”t publish HP data. My Benelli dyno chart shows 138 calculated RWHP at 9500 redline. That is 76.3 lb/ft. Back at 7600 rpm. torque is 92 with hp at 133. To rely on numbers to justify existance is folly and better left to those with peanuts envy. Godspeed Motus. I would have one in a heartbeat if not for a full garage now. (The washer and dryer occupy some precious space-hmmmm..)

  55. Dawg says:

    I have been following Motus and I really like the bike. I’m still worried those header pipes have no protection from a topple/low speed fall. I’m sure the guys at Motus wont have thought about it until it happens!

    Best of luck to them though, they had a dream and now they have a very nice bike.

  56. Geoff says:

    Triumph were able to launch a mainstream brand from scratch with sensible pricing, and these guys could too, if they wanted to.

    The comparisons with Kia and Mercedes are interesting, but completely wrong. The existing players in the marketplace are the equivalent of Lexus and Acura in the car world, prestige products from well established brands. Motus are trying to position themselves at the Rolls-Royce level but with zero track record. There are people that can afford premium products, but they tend to be smart about how they spend their money. Ask Mercedes how the Maybach worked out for them.

    I stand by my prediction of about 100 sales before they reach market saturation and collapse.

  57. Geoff says:

    @JoeD The fact that you can discuss the depreciation on mainstream bikes and then mention that you own a Benelli is amusing. To describe the modern Benelli’s as under appreciated in the marketplace would be kind.

  58. F1 says:

    +1 Geoff

    It has nothing to do with “if you have to ask, you can’t afford it”. Or the feel good story of small company brings a bike to market. And comparing it to some custom exotic completely misses the point, because it isn’t. It’s plain too expensive for what is is, a production bike. 165hp on something that won’t race is,, what-for.
    “Build it and they will come” has it’s limitations, and 36 large blows right by those limits. It’s not as “got to have” as one of the new electrics that occupy that price range, which would have been more in-time with the times. For that coin, I’ll take a couple of Ducs, or a couple of something else. I really like the bike, but like Geoff said, this won’t end well. 100 is optimistic.

  59. anders eliasson says:

    Ugly *ss from the front …

    ACE

  60. Ceolwulf says:

    The comments here are hilarious.

    Hint #1: just because a person judges a product not worthy of the asking price doesn’t make them a “hater”. It also is not evidence that they are poorer than you are and therefore inferior.

    Hint #2: the value of a product has absolutely zero to do with how hard the producer worked to make it. Zero.

  61. Rob says:

    I’ll be getting one. Not off the bat, but in a couple of years. Maybe by then they will have a streetfighter. If not, I’m pulling the fairings off a used. I’m new to riding. So, right now, I want to make all my mistakes on a cheaper bike.

    But, man! I got to meet the owners and see them run that thing.

    I come on here to read motorcycle news, and I appreciate you guys’ posts. It’s where I get all my info.

    So, please don’t think I’m off base saying this. There is nothing about another bike that attracts me like the sound and speed of the prototypes I saw.

    HD has made an awesome cruiser. And they have brought the American motorcycle so far. Their concept and image are iconic.

    The Europeans and Japanese have produced these zoom machines that countless people love. With all that technology…

    I want both styles (foreign and HD) put together, and better. Cars are my first love (told you I was a newbie). I read a lot of comments about suping up a Ninja or owning Ducati and a Harley. Well, yeah… I guess I could do either of those things. But, 1. I wouldn’t have tailpipe noise and speed at the same time. and, 2. A Japanese bike is still Japanese.

    Like in cars… I could buy a Porsche Carrera4S, or supe up a Nissan Z and keep the extra 30 grand. If I supe up a Nissan Z, it’s still going to whine at the high RPMs, and it’s still a Nissan- not a Porsche. I guess that’s the analogy I’d make.

    I want to go fast, make noise, have a slower depreciation curve, and be really proud of what I ride. I think these guys hit the nail on the head, if you ask this little greenhorn.

  62. Leonardo says:

    Too expensive; plain said. First edition of a prototype motorcycle; it’s just to expensive, with none of the perks associated to buying an expensive motorcycle.

  63. Misterp says:

    No one can truthfully say how good it is or isn’t, although asked on the test rides it seems like a fantastic machine. The problem is one of expectations. We all thought we were getting affordable American muscle. What we got was American Boutique. At this price it appeals to the Confederate Wraith buyers and not many others. That is seriously disappointing. This is a big let down for me.

  64. Dan says:

    Get this thing legal for import into Canada and consider another one sold. The comments are almost shameful on this website, how can you even compare this motorcycle to a Jap Scrap? I guess if you don’t understand character then you won’t understand this motorcycle.

    The sound of the exhaust note alone is almost worth the price of entry. Not that I have ridden one but on paper there is no competition to this machine. I ride an Aprilia RSVR and have taken numerous long journeys on it but always wished for a machine to travel longer in comfort without the loss of performance. Well here it is, this bike will combine it all, expensive yes, but I see no reason it won’t be worth every penny.

  65. Billy G says:

    Overpriced and under tested as a company. You’d have to be crazy to buy one.