Say Hello to the 2013 Honda…Grom?

05/14/2013 @ 4:29 pm, by Jensen Beeler37 COMMENTS

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We already covered the Honda MSX125 monkey bike when it debuted at the start of this year, and at the time we knew that the tiny street-terror would be a world market machine. Confirming our hopes at the time of its launch, Honda Motor Corp. has announced that it intends to bring the MSX125 to the United States, renaming it the Honda Grom.

The 2013 Honda Grom will come with just under 10hp, and features a four-speed gearbox that is mated to a 125cc single-cylinder motor, which comes from the common-parts bin of the Japanese company’s popular Honda Wave 125i scooter. Fuel-injected, 225 lbs at the curb when topped-off with its 1.45 gallons of fuel, and priced at $2,999 MSRP, we think Honda hit its mark with an affordable, bulletproof, and fun grocery-getter.

Track day enthusiasts, we have found your perfect pit bike; new riders, we have the ideal machine for you to cut your teeth on, while still being “cool” in the eyes of your more experienced riding friends; and for those who are vertically challenged, your 29.7 inch inseam machine is ready. More photos after the jump, but note America will only be getting the red & black models.


Model:Grom125
Engine Type:124.9cc air-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke
Bore and Stroke:52.4mm x 57.9mm
Compression Ratio:9.3:1
Valve Train:SOHC; two valves per cylinder
Induction:PGM-FI with automatic enrichment
Ignition:Electric
Transmission:Four-speed
Final Drive:Chain
SuspensionFront: 31mm inverted fork; 3.9 inches travel
Rear: Single shock with steel box-section swingarm; 4.1 inches travel
BrakesFront: Single 220mm disc with hydraulic dual-piston caliper
Rear: Single 190mm disc with hydraulic single-piston caliper
TiresFront: 120/70-12
Rear: 130/70-12
Wheelbase:47.4 inches
Rake (Caster Angle):25° 0’.
Trail:81mm (3.2 inches)
Seat Height:29.7 inches
Fuel Capacity:1.45 gallons
Fuel Economy Estimate**:TBD
Colors:Pearl Red, Metallic Black
Curb Weight*:225 pounds

*Includes all standard equipment, required fluids and full tank of fuel—ready to ride.

**Miles per gallon values are calculated estimates of fuel consumed during laboratory exhaust emissions tests specified by the EPA, not during on-road riding. Use for comparison purposes only. Your actual mileage will vary depending on how you ride and maintain your vehicle, weather, road conditions, tire pressure, cargo and accessories, rider and passenger weight, and other factors.
Meets current CARB and EPA off-road emissions standards.

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Photos the 2013 Honda MSX125:

Comment:

  1. Damo says:

    It has been so long that I don’t even remember how registering 125cc vehicles works here in the USA. I think you have to register the vehicle, but don’t have to carry insurance and can’t ride on highways?

  2. Hateraide says:

    How can they afford to put an USD fork on this $3K scooter but not on a CBR500?
    Also hasn’t the Yen lost value relative to the almighty dollar? Why are 600’s still $12K?

  3. good dog says:

    “but note America will only be getting the red & black models”.

    Another reason America is great (from a Canadians perspective) it invented http://www.plastidip.com/home_solutions/Plasti_Dip

  4. Cpt.Slow says:

    Def getting one

  5. Jay says:

    I want one in blaaaaaack

  6. Now here’s a bike you can have some Knee dragging fun with, without getting yourself into too much trouble. I would love to have one.

  7. 76 says:

    I want one, ASAP

  8. TexusTim says:

    ok I just wonder what it is with honda, usa and color selection…does the eu version have 1 more horespower too?…lol

  9. Brett says:

    Grom??? Really? That’s the best that Honda could do for a name? SMH

  10. IL8APEX says:

    I think we’ve just discovered the next exhibition class at Indy MotoGP!

  11. BBQdog says:

    Got myself a Yamaha Tricker XG 250 a couple of years ago. Very low seat, very light, 18 bhp and extremely nimble and manoeuvrable. Bought it just as a shopping bike but it has already 18.000 km on the clock. Also very low fuel consumption. Was developed by Yamaha as a city bike and build in Italy.

  12. paulus - Thailand says:

    the bike is manufactured in Thailand… the Thai baht is the base currency.
    The US is getting it at a cheaper rate than Europe.

    There are already hundreds of aftermarket parts for this bike… just search under ‘MSX’
    plastics are dirt cheap here.
    it wont be long before a US dealer picks up a range.

  13. bluemoco says:

    This is awesome news! I’ll take one in black, please. I will ‘take care’ of it until my 13yo son is old enough to ride. :-)

    The name ‘Grom’ is fine with me – IMO it’s got a positive connotation. Young surfers/skaters/snowboarders are commonly referred to as ‘groms’.

  14. bluemoco says:

    Oh – and for those who don’t like the color options, just wait about 5 minutes.

    The aftermarket is going to attack this bike with a vengeance.

  15. meatspin says:

    we should wait for Kawasaki to come out with something with 50 more ccs of displacement.

  16. Matt says:

    Do you guys think Ohlins is going to make forks and shocks for this?

    I sure hope so.

  17. bluemoco says:

    It’s clear from the pictures that this thing needs an immediate rearfenderectomy.

    Not yet sure where I would locate the license and turn signals, but that fender has gotta go…

  18. Paul McM says:

    Ummm. Am I missing something here. Why are people getting excited about an ugly 10hp monkey bike built for dwarfs? Looks silly by itself. Looks ridiculous and completely out of scale with an adult human being on top. Now, if I was an 8-year-old boy I might be interested. But at $2999.00 retail you’re probably paying $3500 out the door with prep and tax. That’s what I paid in 2012 for my 2011 DR650se in showr00m condition. This seems to be a toy for teenagers or rich guys with money to burn. Have people lost their minds? And what’s with the name “Grom”. Urban dictionary says “grom” refers to “young skateborder/surfer”. I guess this really was designed to appeal to brain-dead 16-year-olds.

  19. froryde says:

    @PaulMcM – because it’s something refreshingly different from Honda (which we haven’t seen for a long time), it’s cheap (relative to other new bikes), and perhaps most important of all, it looks like it’s going to be a heckalota fun?

  20. Gary says:

    Want.

  21. yooperbikemike says:

    tell you what Paul (if that’s your real name) I’m AARP old and I’ve got a deposit on the 1st grom that hits my local Honda dealer. Maybe I’m not he one who’s brain dead.

  22. Richard Gozinya says:

    Grom means thunder in Polish. There’s also Grom Hellscream.

  23. 76 says:

    @PaulMcM seems to have the pulse of America on speed dial, little did Honda know all they had to do is call you dude, cant wait, I’m sure your a literal cornucopia of creativity.

  24. Rob says:

    Looks to be a small step up from a moped.

  25. Franxou says:

    I don’t know about it, I really like it but it looks very diminutive for a “complete” bike. The pricing will have a lot to do with its popularity.
    Here in Québec, Canada, 125cc bikes are in a lower registration bracket which means it’s less costly than 400cc, open-class or sportbikes but even then, let’s admit that the CBR125 don’t seem to be flying out the doors of the dealerships even with the 2012 being priced at $2299 instead of the full $3499 price.
    In fact right now I’m more interested in the Suzuki GW250 I’ve seen at the bike show but it has not even been announced by suzuki canada yet and if they price it anywhere near the TU250 it won’t sell. ($5299 while the CBR250’s full price is $4499 plus some rebates, I like the TU but an air-cooled sohc single without fairing should not cost more than a liquid-cooled dohc faired bike. Even with optional ABS the CBR is cheaper than the Tu250 which can’t have ABS.)
    So if the GW fails to materialize or is just plain too expensive for a small bike, the little 125 might be a good option for a guy like me who is looking to ride for cheap, plus this Grom looks way better than the CBR125. But then again, unless it is cheaper than the CBR125, I can’t see anyone wanting to spend more for what looks like less bike.
    Bonus question: Do you think there will be aftermarket support to make these faster/better or will they only stay moped-fast?

  26. Hew says:

    @Matt: An Ohlins rep just announced that they are making a TTX fork and shock kit for this bike.

    I’m going to get the Ohlins forks and rear shocks for this bad MF. I’m also going for the full carbon brake discs and monobloc calipers to slow this little rocket down.

  27. For those who don’t get it, this little bike fills a number of niches, pretty much otherwise only filled by scooters. Every race team in the world buys a number of scooters so there pit teams can get around racetracks quickly and efficiently. Which would you rather be riding, a scooter or one of these?

    And for every 14-year-old teenager whose about to get their learners permit on their birthday, and wants a motorcycle to ride to school, this is a parents perfect choice. With a real suspension and fat grippy tires, it’s not only much more fun to ride, it’s much more capable and safer under every road condition. Plus it’s power level is perfect for the novice rider.

    It’s also the perfect kind of transportable backup transportation, mounted to an RV, Kept at a vacation home, or even inside of one’s apartment in the city, where you have to worry about parking or your scooter getting stolen if left outside.

    And as far as the less developed world where this qualifies as his primary transportation, Africa, South America, southern Asia where fuel consumption is a major issue, I suspect these little guys will be very very popular.

  28. paulus - Thailand says:

    To the doubters out there..this bike has been in Thailand for a few months already.
    It is awesome fun!.
    I have spent a lot of time riding one and they are great (I am 6’0″)… no problem with ergonomics. This is a perfect run around.
    Check out the Thailand aftermarket sites… even Honda themselves have a big after market range. I am sure some enterprising company will make it available stateside. There is already an Ohlins shock in the official catalogue.

  29. Yung says:

    I can’t wait…put down a deposit 2 days ago

  30. Westward says:

    Love the way it looks, but could a 250 version with a larger fuel tank be just around the corner?

  31. Westward says:

    Actually, I think this is how traditional manufacturers are going to compete with the electrics. By producing low cost fuel efficient bikes at a third the cost of electrics.

    The Grom likes like a gas version of the Brammo Empulse or the new Zero DS…

  32. protomech says:

    @Westward I think it’s an interesting comparison against electrics.

    The 2013 Zero XU ZF2.8 is probably the closest comparison IMO, as the lowest-cost Zero bike.

    The Zero is much more expensive @ $8k vs $3k.

    Both weigh 225 pounds.

    The Zero is both quick (< 6s 0-60) and fast (77 mph top speed) .. as it should be, with 27 hp. Grom's 9 hp probably will have trouble reaching 70 mph, and the Zero won't be riding at 70 mph for long (17 mile range @ steady 70 mph).

    At more moderate speeds, the Zero has more useful range, 24 miles @ steady 55 mph, 29 miles @ mixed city/55 mph riding. It still might be a bike that you might want to charge twice per day; in pit service it COULD be easy enough to keep plugged in when you're not running around.

    Fuelly users report the CBR125R gets about 80 mpg. If Grom does similarly, then that's around 120 miles/tank from a tiny 1.5 gallon tank. That's better than any electric bike except for perhaps the $16k Zero S ZF11.4; but for some applications an overnight-charging electric will be far more convenient.

  33. Franxou says:

    It’s an interesting idea to compare the lightweight internal combustion bike to a lightweight electric bike, but after a quick jolt on cycle-ergo to compare the Grom to the other bikes I am interested in, I think I completely lost any attraction to the naked Honda. Putting my long-legged 34″ inseam and 5’10” frame on this bike, the 250s and a 2013 Zero S (the site does not have many Zero bikes), the Grom is really diminutive! The videos must have been done with someone much smaller than me (after all it is a bike mostly for asian markets and I really don’t mean to be rude but the population average height is different from a country to another), the 12″ wheels make it hard to guess the size of the bike on pictures.
    Then again, if it is mega-cheap, it could still be a blast to ride around town and go to work on, but the cbr125 is way more bike if the prices are close.

  34. Cpt.Slow says:

    To the peeps that don’t get it…

    TRUE Enthusiasts (no “who dick bigger” contest participants need not apply), look at this and see nothing but FUN, that is why WE are excited.

  35. han solo says:

    Now why can’t honda fuel inject the newer vtr250 and bring that over here instead???

  36. paulus - Thailand says:

    Nick ‘Apex’ Brocha was the stunt rider for the official launch here in Thailand.
    He is full sized :)

  37. mugget says:

    That is a bloody expensive pit bike…

    Or, great for an insanely well-funded track day rider.