Triumph Set to Become the Official Moto2 Engine Supplier

01/08/2017 @ 12:26 am, by David Emmett27 COMMENTS

The future of the Moto2 class looks secure. Reports from the UK and Austria are suggesting that Triumph has finalized a deal to supply the Moto2 class when the current deal with Honda concludes at the end of 2018.

From 2019, Triumph will supply a new three-cylinder engine, probably based on the new, larger sports triple they are building for release in 2017.

There had been uncertainty over the future of the Moto2 engine supplier since the beginning of this year.

Honda had extended the deal to supply CBR600RR engines until the end of the 2018 season, but as the Japanese manufacturer was stopping production of its middleweight sports bike, it was clear that a replacement would have to be found. 

There had been speculation over who might take over the role of official engine supplier. It was clear that the class would remain single supplier – any move to change the current situation would have provoked a rebellion from the teams, who are enamored of the fact that Moto2 costs less to compete in than Moto3 – but the question was who would the supplier be.

The candidates were Kawasaki, with the ZX-6R, MV Agusta, and Triumph. As I wrote back in September, in a piece exclusively for MotoMatters.com subscribers, Triumph were the favorites to secure the deal.

According to both Bike Sport News, who were first to spot the deal, and Speedweek, the deal with Dorna has now been signed, and Triumph is to become the new official engine supplier for Moto2 from 2019. The engine should be ready for testing during the 2018 season, in preparation for 2019.

German-language publication Speedweek claims that the engine is to be a new 750cc triple based on the Daytona 675R engine. However, it seems more likely that the engine will be based on the new 765cc triple rumored to be presented in a new sports-oriented bike at the MCN London Motorcycle Show in February.

A larger-capacity triple would be the ideal package for a new Moto2 machine. One of the main complaints with the Honda CBR600RR engine was that it was too wide. The Triumph should be slimmer, making it more suited to be packaged in a pure racing chassis. 

Two question marks hang over the use of the Triumph engine. The first is the serious question of reliability. The Triumph Daytona 675R is still raced in several national Supersport championships (though no longer in World Supersport), and although the bike is relatively nimble and quick, it also had a reputation for engine problems.

As a spec-engine supplier, Triumph will have to ensure that reliability is guaranteed. Fortunately, they will also have more control over the process, being able to monitor maintenance procedures and swap out engines more often than the three-race schedule currently in use, should it be needed.

The second issue with Triumph’s current 675 engine design is the location of the engine mounts. The engine mounts are located on the cylinder head, very high up. This leaves chassis designers little material to work with when trying to engineer flex into the side struts.

More modern engine designs have the forward engine mounts located closer to the cylinder base, rather than the cylinder head. Whether Triumph has modified the forward engine mount will become clear when the engine is presented in February.

Source: Bike Sport NewsSpeedweek

This article was originally published on MotoMatters, and is republished here on Asphalt & Rubber with permission by the author.

  • Jason

    Shoulda been MV Augusta

  • Jeram Mallis

    Why? MV can barely pay to keep their lights on… This contract would require a manufacturer with healthy and stable financials

  • Superlight

    I dunno. Contracts like this help companies to “keep the lights on” and the MV triple is very narrow and powerful.

  • imprezive

    There is no way this contract is big enough to keep MV alive.

  • motoschmoto

    Presumably a 765cc engine will create a significantly more powerful platform. Will this be better preparation for Moto2 riders to move on to MotoGP?

  • Superlight

    Perhaps not, but it could help.

  • CBR Sean

    I always thought moto2 should be 1000cc production engine based class, and moto3 a 500 or 600cc production based class. However, this may be a great step in the right direction.

  • imprezive

    I’m sure it would help but that’s not Dorna’s concern. Triumph could make a stable partner and maybe they will even get them to start racing again.

  • Superlight

    Nothing against Triumph, but MV has the most current triple design and they are already racing (and developing) it.

  • imprezive

    Well presumably this is based on the new Triumph triple so it will be more current than MV. MV certainly has more experience racing right now but Triumph has time and money. Plus Triumph can presumably pique interest in the U.K. whereas Italy is already more than covered.

  • durandal1

    Moto3 is about learning race craft, and 16 year olds learning race craft on a 600 is just crazy town.

  • Darren B

    As a daytona 675 rider for the last decade, F TO THE YEAH! incredible news. An even bigger reason to be invested in moto2..

    The rumours of them tanking the 675 sports bike or maybe coming out with a 765cc engine have been confusing me for a while.

    Seeing as my 675 was recently written off, I hope a daytona 765 is around the corner. Upgrade time!

  • Bob K

    I’d been wanting a bigger Daytona since the 675 came out. I wanted a 1050 10 years ago. Then, Enigma in the UK was to take the 1050 from the Speed Triple and make their own 1050 open class sport bike. Hadn’t heard about them in years tho.
    However, a triple in Moto2 is exciting as hell. Can’t stand buzzy sewing machine I4s on the road and I actually couldn’t watch the Moto2 races the past 2 years. Bored me to tears. Looking forward to seeing more thrust out of the corners.

  • Darren B

    yeh, did triumph eventually put out a 1050 speed or street or another model? never rode it. i always worried a 1050 triple would be sluggish, but im no mechanical engineer.. eitherway bumping up to 765 sounds great, id have money down straight away.

  • TechGuy5489

    I thought the Triumph 750 was supposed to be the Street Triple and that Triumph is just planning to let the Daytona die a slow death?

  • Darren B

    its been the rumour for a while, due to the 600 market dying and the last daytona costing a pretty penny in R&D, but then this announcement comes outta nowhere..

    the daytona 675 is a wildly popular bike, no better 600 bike for mine. wildly dedicated fanbase, theres always a handful usually in the right hands flying around any track day ive gone too.

    If the new 765 engine is there and emissions stuff is done, and their racing pedigree is back in moto2, it would seem counter-intuitive to let it die… but yeh who knows how much money would be needed to design the next one.

  • TechGuy5489

    I’d say the 675 is arguably one of the best 600s out there but I don’t know that I’d call them wildly popular. The 14k MSRP tends to scare people off. It’s honestly a bit ridiculous considering that from the research I’ve been doing they tend to sell for well under MSRP. So does the European tax when it comes to parts and the aftermarket.

    It’s tempting to pick up another 675R (I had a ’13 R) but with the uncertain future of the bike and Triumph’s apparent refusal to get with the program re: technology/electronics I might go with the new R6.

    Maybe the Moto2 deal means Triumph will show something interesting in the first half of this year. I really hope it’s a bigger Daytona but I suspect that the ST3 750 is what’s gonna happen.

  • Loren Andrews

    Well to correct you just a little, the standard Daytona is 12K MSRP which is $200 lower than an R6 (at $12,199). The R version is indeed 14K. This might be a good leg up for Triumph. Being that they are a small company that has seen year over year growth (something MV has not), they have a fairly good quality control considering. This deal might make parts more accessible and cheaper and with the world stage to feature its engine it might end up selling a few more.

  • n/a

    Going to cost a f***ing fortune developing new chassis’ to suit this engine…

  • Andre Capitao Melo

    Lots of teenagers racing 600cc bikes around the world, and moto3 is supposed to get the best of the world, so it isn’t as crazy as you think.

  • Anvil

    One possibility: The new Street Triple is rumored to come in four different specs. The top of the range is a Speed Triple 765 RS, which is the track weapon. I’d venture a guess that a Daytona variant is just a small geometry tweak and a fairing away. If they want to continue the Daytona, most of the development work has already been done. I’ll make a not-so-bold prediction that the Daytona continues in some form.

  • Bob

    WSBK and WSS already have production based racing covered. Dorna, the commercial rights owner of both MotoGP and WSBK, wouldn’t allow that overlap of the two series.

  • Jack Meoph

    It took me a bit to figure out that minimalist logo. f*&k I’m old.

  • Spurdog1

    Cool. was convinced it would be the new KTM twin but glad if Triumph gets to be supplier.

  • Singletrack

    Wait. What? Did I miss something here?
    “…Japanese manufacturer was stopping production of its middleweight sports bike…”
    Please provide some links to any previous discussions about the 600 class dying off.

  • Dasboost

    Thank you. This is exactly what I want know. Honda has axed the CBR 600RR?????????? Please say it isn’t so.