Comments on: MotoCzysz Pulls the Old Switcheroo on Race Day?

By: Jenny Gun

Jenny Gun — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:24:50 +0000

thanks for the quote Phantom, I just read that post on the VFR forum the other day too.

MC had a good telling of the story on the tail section battery in a recent entry on the MotoCzysz site too. Looks like we might not have been to far off the mark.

http://www.motoczysz.com/club/?p=288

By: The Phantom

The Phantom — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:19:36 +0000

A MotoCzysz team member frequents a forum I’m on, and was asked about that underseat battery pack:

Q. Btw, is that an auxiliary battery pack under the tail?

A. Sure is. On race day we had a ridiculous amount of energy storage; enough to complete the course at full speed with the gearing we were running. I believe we had more energy aboard than any other team, but it’s kind of a moot point when a motor fails three miles in.

Just seems to have been part of the plan to me… go here to see more:

http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133756

By: Brad Babcock

Brad Babcock — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:18:16 +0000

I spoke with John Force @ bir (brainard International racway) in 03about airo dinamics’withch brouht him to his present body. And how the jap bikes brought there bikes over 10,ooo rpm with out blowing them up by retarding the ignition behind tdc@10,000 rpms, then advancing it to get more hp.
in the conversntion , I told him in the future he would be racing with nan electric motor due to the fact of the instantious tourq deliery of an electric motor!
the exampel i geve him was of a train. It uses an disel motor to turn a generator to power the eletric motors in witch powers each wheel.
The next case in point was the big catapillar dump trucks used in mininnig preshiouse metals! Same principal!
Good luck to you Michale you are deffanetle on to the future of tranpertation, with the help of Obma and green traspertation , I can’t see wye the goverment can’t help with grants. this is one of the ways we want to go in the future with transpertation!!!!
The other would be nitrogyn power by h2o cells for combustion engines. Ive tryeed convincing bomaderee of this a few years ago!(rotax) But to no avail.
Keep on movin on , It takes people like you and me to open ideas to make the future!!
Oh by the way , force implemnted every thing I spoke to him about. And by utillizing it set a new record that still stands today!

By: Jenny Gun

Jenny Gun — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:22:14 +0000

There’s nothing against the rules about it. The article is a theory on what the MotoCzysz strategy might have been while at the TTXGP.

For the record, Michael Czysz emailed us and flatly denied any of our theory…like all great conspiracies usually are. ;)

MC’s reason for not getting down the track was apparently a motor meltdown, something that occurred to one of Brammo’s bikes as well.

By: meatspin

meatspin — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:12:59 +0000

was having the extra contingency battery against the rules? Who cares?

I thought his bike could have at least made a whole lap around. Lame that it didnt. You’d think the team would have “leaned” it out to do that.

Its got me curious about the efficiency of that Agni motor. It must be pretty good. If czysc is going back next year, then he either needs to bring a bigger battery or get one of them motors.

By: cWINFIELD

cWINFIELD — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:36:48 +0000

Hmm. Cloak and daggar or total conjecture? Interesting theory. Sandbagging is the second oldest trick in the book. If that’s what they were doing, it might’ve bit them on the butt this year. Now they have an entire year to ensure it will whip everyone else.

By: Charles

Charles — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:19:31 +0000

I don’t quite understand what the issue is. Were they able to get around the course without a new bike, battery or charge and qualify, or not. If they were, what difference does it make what bike they actually used since they are all prototypes anyhow? Or was it a matter of not adhering to the race rules?

By: Curt

Curt — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:57:59 +0000

So, you feel threatened by a 115 hp, 440 pound electric bike that can do 37 miles per charge? Even a 600cc Japanese 4-cyl can kick that bike’s ass. Go suck some gasoline fumes.

By: John Adamo

John Adamo — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:42:35 +0000

@Asphalt_Rubber Nice MotoCzysz commentary! hmmm. #TTXGP http://bit.ly/z4Hlp

By: Bryan

Bryan — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:20:57 +0000

It looks to me like there’s a battery mounted behind the main 10 in the second picture that’s not there on the dyno run picture. It’s mostly hidden by the ‘tank’ and the frame, but you can see the bottom of it sticking out above the swingarm. That would make the battery under the tail the 12th one. I wonder if there is room to mount a 13th battery above the main 10 inside the ‘tank’.