Triumph Daytona 1100 Concept by Luca Bar Design

06/13/2013 @ 1:43 pm, by Jensen Beeler17 COMMENTS

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It seems like a no-brainer, right? Take the existing Triumph Daytona 675 supersport package, drop in the 1,050cc three-cylinder motor found in the Triumph Speed Triple (with a higher state of tune, of course), and call the beast the Triumph Daytona 1100 superbike. Boom. Done. It’s so easy Triumph, so why haven’t you done it already?!

The answer of course is that the superbike segment is extremely competitive and expensive to enter — just ask BMW Motorrad. A small manufacturer with a rich brand history, Triumph also has a propensity to zig when others zag, which is how the Speed Triple came about in the first place. However, the timing might be right for Hinckley to put some effort into a superbike project.

With Yamaha going triple on us, having now debuted its first modern three-cylinder road bike, the 2014 Yamaha FZ-09, Triumph may see an ally in the fight to have production-based superbike classes include an 1,100cc provision for three-cylinder bikes, which would pave the way for a Daytona 1100 road bike.

After all, A superbike triple would be a welcomed change from the current crop of machines, as there is something exotic about the three-cylinder engine configuration — right Benelli owners? With all the pieces of the puzzle in front of us, Luca Bar has whipped up a concept render that of what such a potential project could look like.

If you think it looks just like the current Daytona 675, well then…that’s sort of the point, isn’t it?

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Source: Luca Bar Design (Blog)

Comment:

  1. coreyvwc says:

    The current 1050 triple engine is far too underpowered and heavy to propel a new superbike, even in a super hot rodded state of tune. I would LOVE to see it, but that would require an entirely new engine and a basically just a new motorcycle.

    Only time will tell! fingers crossed though.

  2. Jake says:

    I would be so stoked if Triumph brought back the litre super bike. I had a 2002 955i. I loved that bike. I was so bummed when Triumph discontinued it. I would be one of the first ones to get on the waiting list for a Daytona 1100cc.

  3. CTK says:

    I think a lot of people would go for this. Im pretty sure Triumph has been making money hand over fist with their awesome in demand lineup as well so I doubt they are hard up for cash. Plus with the success of the S1000RR and the Panigale I think Triumph could def play up its European exoticness for profit AND volume. It’s a risk worth taking.

  4. Faust says:

    +1 Coreyvwc

    That 1050 is a lump and in no way suitable for a superbike. Their 675 is a masterpiece but the 1050 is simply outdated and underpowered. They have the existing street triple in the same chassis as the daytona, and anyone who’s ever ridden a new street triple (myself included) will tell you how nimble and balanced that chassis is, and how perfectly the 675 compliments it. I personally think the street triple is one of the best bikes ever made. I jumped straight off a street triple and onto a speed triple and all I could think about was getting back on the street. I’d love to see them come out with a triple superbike (hell, I might even buy one), but I think Yamaha is going to beat them to the punch (as well as my wallet).

  5. “If you think it looks just like the current Daytona 675, well then…that’s sort of the point, isn’t it?”

    Why do bikes and cars have to look the same as other models within their “family” just b/c they’re made by the same OEM. It is kind of foolish to pigeon-hole a designer into a certain aesthetic right off the bat instead of starting with a blank canvas.

    Notice the Ford cars (and plenty of other makes) using the same grill and lighting shapes? I never understood that concept.

  6. Harb says:

    If Triumph want to bring a competitive product to the superbike market, they’re going to need to refine both the styling and brand image in the sport segment.

    The original Daytona 675 had a handsome, clean look with just enough hint of the exotic. The styling updates brought about by the 2009 refresh were minor but collectively worked to give the bike a more mature, exotic image that consumers want when shopping for something more special than a Japanese bike but with a palatable price tag.

    The current Daytona took a step in the wrong direction by taking on a more busy, overdesigned look. Triumph undoubtedly make a great bike even better with regard to the performance updates, but the styling lost almost all of its class and exotic appeal.

    Image and style isn’t everything, but the superbike market is very difficult to enter and thrive in. Triumph will need every competitive advantage they can gather in order to succeed. Its competition are almost all much larger, older, and have experience in World Superbikes and MotoGP – beating them based on performance alone is going to be very difficult on the first outing. A first attempt with exotic European styling at the top end of the Japanese price range would give the bike the added appeal needed to really make a splash the way they did with the original Daytona 675.

  7. nakdgrl says:

    From the source I hear that the focus will be on 250-300cc bikes not 1050 Daytona’s. They tried and concepted it a few years ago and it’s just going to go. The Street Triple is there best selling bike.. so from a business perspective the 1050 Daytona still makes little sense.

    As a person who rides a Daytona 675 and Speed Triple 1050 I would be first in line – but that ship has sailed.

  8. ctk says:

    nakdgrl are you from NYC? I had an old neighbor with those old bikes. A white ST 1050 and a blue Daytona 675

  9. nik says:

    ” ..drop in the 1,050cc three-cylinder motor found in the Triumph Speed Triple (with a higher state of tune, of course), and call the beast the Triumph Daytona 1100 superbike. Boom. Done. It’s so easy Triumph, so why haven’t you done it already?! ”

    we are all so stupid that only you could thought about it ..

    seriously you have to think before writing this stupid things ..

    the engine of 1050cc is the same as the 855cc and it is maximum drilled to 1050cc
    thats why tiger sport 1050cc will be the last of this old engine ..

  10. Afletra says:

    +1 Drive The Wheels Off
    that’s why I love the Japanese more, they always have a very different design for their line-up, in this case; supersport and asuperbike.
    see the Duc? back there, I can’t tell where’s the 848 and 1098/1198 if they removed the sticker, maybe their hardcore fans can.
    but kawasaki seems to make their sport bikes line-up looks similar nowadays…

  11. Luca Bar says:

    I know it’s a “bit” simplistic concept, but I would really love to see a new Triumph SBK, even if it would not be a WSBK winner. I’m sure people in Englan have the knowhow to design a real superbike, and if MV can do it, also they can.

  12. Kevin says:

    Jens,

    I saw exactly that on the ole Isle of Man just a week and a half ago. Thought I was seeing things.

    K

  13. geno says:

    I made the suggesion on another site of Triumph taking the Tiger 800 engine, putting it in the Daytona frame with a turbo for extra power. Not something you can race but could be a very interesting spin on the open class street bike.

  14. kev71 says:

    I have to agree with nakdgrl (who wouldn’t?). From a long term financial perspective, it would be much more intelligent for Triumph to look to the 250-500cc segment which is growing remarkably. They have shown they can compete with the Japanese in the middle weight segment; they should follow the Japanese into the small displacement category to give consumers a European alternative. With the emerging world markets’ consumers focusing on smaller displacement bikes, Triumph would be smart to “throw their hat in the ring.” The 1000cc+ segment is sexy but the financial impact on the company would be tremendous and, in my opinion, a big mistake.

  15. Blair says:

    Single-sided swingarms are heavy. That’s why no other sportbike has them today, and only a couple of racing motorcycles for endurance races (where quick wheel changes are important) have ever had them.

    The Speed Triple is 470 lbs. Compared to other superbikes, that’s a lot of weight, and not a lot of peak power. For example, the RSV4 is 390 lbs. The 1098R is 364 lbs. The S3 is 100 lbs over the AMA Superbike minimum, and not all that close to the 200 bhp that superbikes can produce.

    The other problem is: where are you going to race it? As the article notes, you’d have to lobby AMA Superbike to add a 3-cylinder division. Nobody is going to develop a new superbike if there’s nowhere to race it, and I’m not sure why AMA would add a new division for one bike. Yamaha’s new 847cc naked triple is neat, but it’s not a race bike, and it’s not in the same category as the 1050, and they’ve not said anything about producing a superbike triple.

    This was a very cool Photoshop exercise, but it would be pointless to build this as a production motorcycle.

  16. ba wild says:

    The 1050 triple simply cannot be in a higher state of tune- it is pretty much at it’s maximum. It can’t happen, not with that engine. Perhaps (in fact I’d bet on it) when the next generation big triple comes out it will be developed for a naked, sports and off roader, just as the 675 of this year was.

    As for the styling their is family resemblance (which I think is a questionable concept anyhow) and there is simply writing 1100 triple on the side of a 675.

    The first Daytone had a simple elegance about it that the new one is missing.

  17. GJB says:

    I seem to remember years ago there was a real trend of swapping motors out. I recall an old article called “If 6 were 9″ I think it was the CBR’s where owners were using the 600 frame as it was shorter and nimbler and then dropping in the 900 engine.
    Had an old Z500 once that had a newer GPZ550 engine it. Went like a cut cat and was fun to ride. Seems we have lost a bit of the old fashioned “muck” with it attitude.